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Old Posted Jun 29, 2020, 2:41 PM
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It's a tricky site, they CAN put the tower to the south of the apartment but then it overshadows the church, and the church may not accept that since this is their project.

As noted, the lot north of Maple belongs to a different church so that is not in play here.

The Assumption Church project at Illinois and Franklin is a good example of a church and a highrise playing nice together, but they had more space to work with.
The parking space is also in an L shape around the building on the corner. I would guess that building on just that awkward lot is going to result in a more than proportional reduction in usable square footage, and a less than proportional reduction in costs.
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Old Posted Jun 29, 2020, 2:46 PM
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^ Of course, an L-shaped or skinny highrise just ain't gonna happen here... the only remotely realistic way to "preserve" that red brick apartment is to paste the facade onto the tower's new podium.
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Old Posted Jun 29, 2020, 5:43 PM
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I feel bad for the Nobu developers. Thankfully Robert de Niro has a successful day job as an A-list Hollywood actor!

I mean, first they had to appease some NIMBY's, then got off to a slow start, had a shitty project manager, switched developers, God knows what other construction delays, and finally when the whole thing is done...............it's now the worst time in modern history for the hotel industry!

I really am hoping for the best
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Looks like the Onni project on Grand recently topped off the core.
I assume there's more of the crown left to build--it has that funky superstructure up top.
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The Nobu rooftop bar opens today... I know they were doing work on it recently but this is definitely a surprise to me.

This article also has some pictures of the rooftop, seems pretty nice.

https://chicago.eater.com/2020/7/1/2...st-loop-deniro
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Old Posted Jul 1, 2020, 5:37 PM
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New proposal for 601 S. Dearborn (at Harrison). Looks like 14 floors, 462 units (most studios), 5500 sf retail, 25 parking stalls (required by the Transportation Building PD from 1981). Architect is FitzGerald:


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Old Posted Jul 1, 2020, 6:02 PM
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^for Fitzgerald, it's not TOO bad... my biggest beef, why can't they take the base all the way south to meet the 3-story neighbor instead of insisting on symmetry and what will be a few awkward balconies butting up against the party wall...

https://www.google.com/maps/place/60...34!4d-87.62892
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Doesn't look that great, but I like the density. How likely is it that NIMBYs will block this though?
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Old Posted Jul 1, 2020, 6:34 PM
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^ Great density and filler, the problem is that Loop/near Loop rents are facing some strong downward forces due to the current job/pandemic situation.

If/when this gets approved, starts construction, etc that might be years off so perhaps by then things will be much stronger. But right now, I don't think we are going to see much new residential construction in the area.
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Looks like something that belongs in Palatine, or Hoffman Estates. Bland af.
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All these new units in Chicago... who's going to occupy them?
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New proposal for 601 S. Dearborn (at Harrison). Looks like 14 floors, 462 units (most studios), 5500 sf retail, 25 parking stalls (required by the Transportation Building PD from 1981). Architect is FitzGerald:
Didn't you suggest to the alderman at some point that a developer should mirror the Transportation Building on that lot, and you got laughed out of the room?

My how the times change...
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Um, I'm not sure what you're thinking of. Which alderman? I've always supported new tall narrow buildings in a district of tall narrow buildings. I want them to use the massing, materials, and design vocabulary of Printing House Row, though.

Twenty years ago, as neighbors were making a big stink about a new building adjoining the Trans Bldg to the south, demanding a park, I commented that this parking lot on the east side of Dearborn would actually be the much better place for an urban plaza, since it has the solar exposure, and it could even have one or two levels of subterranean parking beneath, much like San Francisco's Union Square, to help pay for it. But I was never in a setting to suggest that seriously to anyone.
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New proposal for 601 S. Dearborn (at Harrison). Looks like 14 floors, 462 units (most studios), 5500 sf retail, 25 parking stalls (required by the Transportation Building PD from 1981). Architect is FitzGerald:

Better to put that blah building there where nobody would notice it than at 601 S State.
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601 S Dearborn looks like a great proposal to me. My criteria for great is that it replaces a surface parking lot, it doesn't have a huge parking podium, and it has ground floor retail. For that location, the only thing better would be something 500 ft or taller. This is a perfectly good urban proposal for Printer's Row/South Loop. The amount of griping over good proposals on this board is something else.
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601 S Dearborn looks like a great proposal to me. My criteria for great is that it replaces a surface parking lot, it doesn't have a huge parking podium, and it has ground floor retail. For that location, the only thing better would be something 500 ft or taller. This is a perfectly good urban proposal for Printer's Row/South Loop. The amount of griping over good proposals on this board is something else.
My problem is it really doesn't mesh with its neighbors all that well.
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Um, I'm not sure what you're thinking of. Which alderman? I've always supported new tall narrow buildings in a district of tall narrow buildings. I want them to use the massing, materials, and design vocabulary of Printing House Row, though.

Twenty years ago, as neighbors were making a big stink about a new building adjoining the Trans Bldg to the south, demanding a park, I commented that this parking lot on the east side of Dearborn would actually be the much better place for an urban plaza, since it has the solar exposure, and it could even have one or two levels of subterranean parking beneath, much like San Francisco's Union Square, to help pay for it. But I was never in a setting to suggest that seriously to anyone.
Not sure why I thought that.

Anyway, I understand why hand-laid brick is probably not cost-effective for a highrise like this - nor would it look historic, with a flashing at every floor. But there are certainly materials out there that can evoke the colors and textures of brick at a lower cost. Facade depth is a trickier one, but ideally you'd want some relief at the windows as well so the whole thing doesn't look too slick.
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601 S Dearborn looks like a great proposal to me. My criteria for great is that it replaces a surface parking lot, it doesn't have a huge parking podium, and it has ground floor retail. For that location, the only thing better would be something 500 ft or taller. This is a perfectly good urban proposal for Printer's Row/South Loop. The amount of griping over good proposals on this board is something else.
And at 462 units it's adding a good amount of density to the area
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