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Old Posted Jun 27, 2019, 1:22 AM
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I love that this relatively short skyscraper has so much personality that it provides a perfect counterpoint to the prewar gems that fill our skyline.
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Was driving around downtown and thought that I would take some pictures for the forum. Did not have my camera, only my phone. Here are some of the new Frost Building.








Here is one of San Pedro Creek next to Frost.


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Opening Day - July 1, 2019

Today, the new Frost Tower opened to the public. The ground level features a mezzanine known as Frost Loft and has a small museum exhibit featuring the history of Frost Bank. You can find a historical timeline, company contributions, and historical items on display.



https://www.instagram.com/p/BzZzsUwn9uJ/


https://www.instagram.com/p/BzZr4JYHFox/

I'm not sure I get the wood bars (do they act as shades somehow?), and the ceiling looks like an afterthought (why didn't they continue the wood beam theme?)... but the outside of the building is astounding.
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Opening Day - July 1, 2019

Today, the new Frost Tower opened to the public. The ground level features a mezzanine known as Frost Loft and has a small museum exhibit featuring the history of Frost Bank. You can find a historical timeline, company contributions, and historical items on display.



https://www.instagram.com/p/BzZzsUwn9uJ/


https://www.instagram.com/p/BzZr4JYHFox/

I'm not sure I get the wood bars (do they act as shades somehow?), and the ceiling looks like an afterthought (why didn't they continue the wood beam theme?)... but the outside of the building is astounding.
I can't believe they left the columns like that! Doesn't look good. It's okay for a "loft" but not a bank!
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Those are really nice photos, JRG1974.
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Those are really nice photos, JRG1974.
Yes, they are. I wish there were a like button so I could express my appreciation without adding another reply.
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I can't believe they left the columns like that! Doesn't look good. It's okay for a "loft" but not a bank!
At least it adds some texture. Look how smooth everything else is, even the ceiling!
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I can see people doing parkour in there.
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Thanks guys. I was passing through on a beautiful Sunday evening. The sunlight was coming off the building really nicely. Had to take some pics and share.

I don't get to downtown enough.
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I was in the area north of downtown and passed by The Towers on Park Lane (1 Towers Parks Ln., San Antonio, Texas 78209), and got to thinking; is this building really the same height as the new Frost Tower?
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I was in the area north of downtown and passed by The Towers on Park Lane (1 Towers Parks Ln., San Antonio, Texas 78209), and got to thinking; is this building really the same height as the new Frost Tower?
I believe it's 20 feet shorter. But yes, it's in the same ballpark.
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I was in the area north of downtown and passed by The Towers on Park Lane (1 Towers Parks Ln., San Antonio, Texas 78209), and got to thinking; is this building really the same height as the new Frost Tower?
I had emailed them years ago (like 15 years ago) asking for the height, and they told me 368 feet, but I really don't believe that height. I was up in the Tower of the Americas last weekend (taking photos, Jack), and I had a good view of both The Broadway San Antonio and the Towers on Park Lane. I was also told that the height of The Broadway is 279 feet. Those two buildings seem to be very close in height when viewed from afar. I've only ever been able to measure The Towers on Park Lane as 278 feet tall with Google Earth.

Also, there's no way a 22-story residential building could be 368 feet tall. The Broadway, for example, is 20 floors and 279 feet. 2 floors more would not be that much of a gain. Newer buildings now are also trending taller with relatively the same amount of floors as older buildings with the same number of floors. There's a lot more technology (cables) going into them now than there used to be thanks to the internet.
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I had emailed them years ago (like 15 years ago) asking for the height, and they told me 368 feet, but I really don't believe that height. I was up in the Tower of the Americas last weekend (taking photos, Jack), and I had a good view of both The Broadway San Antonio and the Towers on Park Lane. I was also told that the height of The Broadway is 279 feet. Those two buildings seem to be very close in height when viewed from afar. I've only ever been able to measure The Towers on Park Lane as 278 feet tall with Google Earth.

Also, there's no way a 22-story residential building could be 368 feet tall. The Broadway, for example, is 20 floors and 279 feet. 2 floors more would not be that much of a gain. Newer buildings now are also trending taller with relatively the same amount of floors as older buildings with the same number of floors. There's a lot more technology (cables) going into them now than there used to be thanks to the internet.
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I had emailed them years ago (like 15 years ago) asking for the height, and they told me 368 feet, but I really don't believe that height. I was up in the Tower of the Americas last weekend (taking photos, Jack), and I had a good view of both The Broadway San Antonio and the Towers on Park Lane. I was also told that the height of The Broadway is 279 feet. Those two buildings seem to be very close in height when viewed from afar. I've only ever been able to measure The Towers on Park Lane as 278 feet tall with Google Earth.

Also, there's no way a 22-story residential building could be 368 feet tall. The Broadway, for example, is 20 floors and 279 feet. 2 floors more would not be that much of a gain. Newer buildings now are also trending taller with relatively the same amount of floors as older buildings with the same number of floors. There's a lot more technology (cables) going into them now than there used to be thanks to the internet.
Makes much sense. Insightful. Thanks.
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I tried to get two pics from Googlemaps, but apparently they haven't updated recently, the area around the Frost tower.

For fun, got to Googlemaps, start at City Hall, and make the left on N. Flores, and you see the tower, but continue, and it disappears.

That said, I'm not sure that the Towers at Park Lane are as short as we may suspect:

https://www.google.com/maps/@29.4631...7i16384!8i8192

Not scientific, and if Google ever updates to includes the Frost tower within the same vicinity, we might be surprised.

ETA: I always thought the TaPL would look good DT, but I also like being able see it from points all around town, especially on points East coming into town.
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I had emailed them years ago (like 15 years ago) asking for the height, and they told me 368 feet, but I really don't believe that height. I was up in the Tower of the Americas last weekend (taking photos, Jack), and I had a good view of both The Broadway San Antonio and the Towers on Park Lane. I was also told that the height of The Broadway is 279 feet. Those two buildings seem to be very close in height when viewed from afar. I've only ever been able to measure The Towers on Park Lane as 278 feet tall with Google Earth.

Also, there's no way a 22-story residential building could be 368 feet tall. The Broadway, for example, is 20 floors and 279 feet. 2 floors more would not be that much of a gain. Newer buildings now are also trending taller with relatively the same amount of floors as older buildings with the same number of floors. There's a lot more technology (cables) going into them now than there used to be thanks to the internet.
Intuitively, I'd agree. Also, the Broadway seems to be on lower ground. Did they say 368' from the ground, or from River level? I know it sounds like a funny question, given the Towers' distance from the river, but you never know.

Also, I don't know the difference in "stories" relative to height, or the difference between residential and office, but the Frost Tower is listed as 23 stories, and 386 feet tall. Would a 22 story 368 foot tall tower be completely impossible?

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Let's go this way with it. This is from the base of the old Frost tower:

https://www.google.com/maps/@29.4260...7i13312!8i6656

And the Towers at Park Lane:

https://www.google.com/maps/@29.4631...7i16384!8i8192

If we can all agree that the old Frost is 300' and I believe 8" officially, then maybe we can get some perspective.

If somebody knows how to put them side by side, even on an offsite link, that might help, but I'm guessing the TaPL are closer to 300 or so feet than the 368 they claim.
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