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MONTREAL'S OGILVY PROJECT IS DELAYED
5 September 2013



A project that could have seen the amalgamation of Montreal's Ogilvy and Holt Renfrew stores has been delayed. The building's owner, Selfridge's Group, is reevaluating plans to demolish an adjacent hotel for a new 17-story hotel and condominium tower.

There have been rumours that Holt Renfrew's 83,000 square foot Sherbrooke Street West store would close so that a combined Holt Renfrew/Ogilvy store could operate on Sainte-Catherine Street. Holt Renfrew won't confirm these plans so we can't say that they were certain. We've been given word, however, that plans for the project, generally, will be modified.

There's no word yet if the project's delay stems from Saks Fifth Avenue's revelation that it will open within the downtown Montreal Hudson's Bay store. Hudson's Bay is also on Sainte-Catherine Street, about 800 metres East of Ogilvy.

A few months ago, we were provided with initial plans that indicated Ogilvy occupying much of its current space, with entrances to an adjacent retail space featuring an atrium and escalators. The image above reflects the exterior of the plans we viewed and, again, we're not confirming that Holt's will move beside Ogilvy.

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More news - Apparently we're up to 21 floors now. Thread title updated.







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I knew this would happen.

This isn't the only downtown hotel they've closed only to end up with nothing.


Tour Centre-Ville
Hotel de la Montagne
Hotel Maritime

All closed recently putting hundreds of employees out of well-paying work. And we lost a cool downtown terrasse too.

And in all these cases the projects have crashed.

Point Zero? Now a squatters paradise (I see them break the windows out back and sneak inside the empty shell) Maritime? Seems to have died off quickly that one.





Will the same thing happen to the Delta? or the Bonaventure Hilton? What's next, are they going to close down the Queen E as well? Hey the marriott seems to be doing pretty well, let's shut that one down too!


Sad.

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Well, demolition seems to have started.

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Movement in #Montreal's Maison Ogilvy project. Plans to demolish the Hotel de la Montagne advance. pic.twitter.com/SQQ3fhzlVi

https://twitter.com/RealDealMtl/stat...201153/photo/1

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Do we really know it's being demolished?

That was the plan with the Ogilvy project but that project seems on hold or canceled (announcement 5 Sept., reopening of W.Churchill, main tower going from 17 to 21 stories). Since the new height is pretty much the actual Hotel's height, maybe what's going on is a full renovation/re-cladding??
     
     
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The Selfridges owned Hotel de la Montagne property is being demolished to make way for a possible future expansion of Ogilvy's. Considering that they are undertaking the huge expense of demolition, perhaps they have plans for Holt Renfrew to eventually move there?

The parking lot next door, initially part of the project, is now slated for a separate ~20 story mixed-use (condos, hotel, retail) development by Carbonleo (the former commercial wing of Devimco). Hopefully they'll be able to buy out Wanda's and build right on De Maisonneuve.

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Maison Ogilvy: le superprojet initial mis au rancart
Publié le 21 octobre 2013 à 06h41 | Mis à jour à 09h51

Maxime Bergeron
La Presse

(Montréal) Le superprojet de 150 millions prévu autour du magasin Ogilvy ne se réalisera pas tel que prévu à l'origine. À quoi s'attendre pour ce secteur névralgique du centre-ville de Montréal ? Détails et explications.

Le partenariat en vue de lancer un superprojet de 150 millions de dollars autour du magasin Ogilvy n'existe plus. Le Fonds immobilier de solidarité FTQ s'est retiré du dossier, et deux des anciens partenaires planifient maintenant des projets distincts dans ce secteur névralgique du centre-ville de Montréal.

Le projet « Maison Ogilvy » a d'abord été présenté au printemps 2012. Il prévoyait l'agrandissement du célèbre magasin, l'érection d'un hôtel de 120 chambres, d'une centaine de copropriétés ainsi que d'une galerie marchande et de 400 places de stationnement. Le consortium initial était formé de Selfridges Group Ltd (propriétaire d'Ogilvy), du Fonds FTQ et du promoteur Devimco.

Or, Selfridges « a décidé de poursuivre seule sa réflexion », a confirmé à La Presse Affaires Jean-Sébastien Lamoureux, porte-parole du groupe. L'entreprise de la richissime famille ontarienne Weston envisage toujours d'agrandir le magasin Ogilvy, mais sans ses partenaires.

« Le plan, actuellement, c'est d'aller de l'avant avec un agrandissement éventuel ; il y a encore un projet sur lequel on travaille », a affirmé M. Lamoureux.

Toutes les parties impliquées dans le partenariat initial font preuve de la plus grande discrétion. Selon nos informations, le Fonds FTQ s'est retiré du dossier dès l'automne 2012.

« Le Fonds immobilier a reçu une offre non sollicitée de la part de ses partenaires et cette offre s'est avérée intéressante, a indiqué par courriel le porte-parole Patrick McQuilken. Selfridges et ses partenaires avaient une perspective de développement à long terme alors que nous sommes un investisseur à plus court terme. »

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You'll have to wait until dark for that, that's when rats usually creep out of the sewers.
     
     
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If only that were also true for pierre curzi.
     
     
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So it seems like it might take close to a year before the Hotel de la Montagne is fully demolished.

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MONTREAL'S OGILVY AND HOLT RENFREW STORES TO MERGE, SHERBROOKE ST HOLT RENFREW TO CLOSE

MONTREAL, Nov. 19, 2013 /CNW Telbec/ - Holt, Renfrew & Co., Limited today unveiled grand plans to expand and transform the St. Catherine's Street Ogilvy location into a unique and exciting luxury retail destination branded: Ogilvy, part of the Holt Renfrew & Co. collection. Spanning 220,000 square feet, the new specialty store will expand to include an adjacent site and become the largest in the Holt Renfrew network, offering innovative new retail concepts and Canada's richest assortment of luxury fashion and beauty brands. Following a $60 million investment, the new store is slated for completion in late 2017.

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The construction phase for the future store is scheduled to begin in the fall of 2014 and be completed later in 2017. The store will remain open throughout this period to serve customers, as will the current Holt Renfrew store in Montreal.

Familiar elements of the distinctive and stylish Ogilvy building will be celebrated in the new store design, including its magnificent façade, complemented with an expansion on the site of the former Hotel de la Montagne. The store will also continue to offer a mix of lease partners.

The Holt Renfrew store on Sherbrooke Street will also remain open to welcome customers throughout this period, with exciting upgrades to enhance the shopping experience, including the recent launch of a new Dior shop, which offers the richest assortment of its kind in Canada, and plans for a new Prada shop. Plans for the Sherbrooke Street property post 2017 will be confirmed at a future date, and are expected to include retail offerings to benefit the local community.

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Ogilvy, Holt Renfrew to merge into luxury megastore

Construction will begin in 2014, with a design celebrating "familiar elements of the distinctive and stylish Ogilvy building";

BY EVA FRIEDE, GAZETTE STYLE EDITORNOVEMBER 19, 2013

MONTREAL — The luxury merger of Ogilvy and Holt Renfrew in a massive expanded store is great news for Montreal, staff, retailers and analysts agree.

The official word that Montreal's two luxury department stores will merge in an expanded Ogilvy in 2017 came Tuesday, after more than two years of widespread speculation that just this was in the works after the owners of Holt Renfrew bought Ogilvy in fall of 2011.

Selfridges Group Ltd., owned by the Weston family of Toronto, also controls Loblaws and the Selfridges department store in the U.K., among other retailers.

And Ogilvy has won the top billing on the new 220,000-square-foot store, which will take the rather clunky name "Ogilvy, part of the Holt Renfrew & Co. collection." The store will be unique to Montreal and the largest in the Holt Renfrew chain, which has 10 stores plus a pop-up across Canada.

In French, the name will be Ogilvy, membre de la collection Holt Renfrew & Co.

"We see it as Ogilvy reimagined by Holt Renfrew,'' said Mark Derbyshire, president of Holt Renfrew, accompanied in Ogilvy's plush wood-panelled executive offices by the new senior vice-president of the store, Joanne Nemeroff, a Montrealer who formerly led La Senza. In good form, she wore Marie Saint Pierre, the Montreal designer carried by Ogilvy's but not Holt's.

It's taking the best of the storied brand of Ogilvy and the best of the heritage brand Holt Renfrew and creating something new, Derbyshire said.

But details of the $60-million expansion into a new building on the site of adjacent the Hotel de la Montagne were scant.

The hotel is being demolished and construction will begin in 2014. The new building will be five storeys and the two wings will connect seamlessly, Derbyshire said. Architects and plans are not finalized.

One big question is what retail tenants will remain.

Both stores have a mix of tenants, but Ogilvy's has about 80 per cent of its spaced leased to retailers like Louis Vuitton, Ports 1961, Collange, Michael Kors, Bleu Comme le Ciel and Design Louis George, the fifth floor furniture concession which has already announced it is moving by the end of the year. In Holt Renfrew, Chanel, Tiffany, Hermès and Agent Provocateur are among the tenant retailers.

Speaking simultaneously during much of the joint interview, Nemeroff and Derbyshire pointed out that the plans are a work in progress.

"The good thing is we have three years," Nemeroff said.

"We have to work through the process," Derbyshire added, asked if that percentage of leasing was going to be lowered. "Lease operation is a core part of our business.''

"At this point, it's business as usual," Nemeroff said.

Asked about their futures in Ogilvy's, retail tenants said they had no idea what was in store.

Marie-Hélène Chartray, owner of the Bleu Comme le Ciel jewelry concession, said the new store will be the best place to shop in Montreal. "I'm pretty proud about that. Let's hope I'm part of their plans."

Derbyshire said the retailer has spent two years talking to customers. The tenant mix will meet their needs, Nemeroff said.

According to Derbyshire, Ogilvy customers told them, "Re-energize my shop."

The Holt customer wants more depth, breadth and assortment of brands — new brands, the pair said.

As for overlap in such areas as shoes, Nemeroff said there was room for a much bigger shoe hall.

Asked if it will have its own zip code, as Saks famously did with its shoe floor in New York, they laughed.

Both executives acknowledged that many Montrealers shop outside this city, whether it be in Toronto, the rest of Canada, or abroad.

"I think if we can give them what's equivalent to what they can get anywhere else they would be happy to shop in Montreal," Nemeroff said.

Staffing in the future will increase, Derbyshire said.

Both Ogilvy and Holt Renfrew are heritage brands founded in Quebec: Ogilvy in 1866 in Montreal, Holt's in 1837 in Quebec City.

Ogilvy's, on Ste-Catherine St. W. at the corner of de la Montagne, is the larger property, with 120,000 square feet. Holt Renfrew, on Sherbrooke St. W, just up the street on de la Montagne, has 64,000 square feet.

Asked what they think people will actually call the store, the executives had no answers.

The banner is to bring together the two brands. It will be up to Steeve Lapierre, a longtime Ogilvy's VP of marketing and visual display, to make the concept work, from the bag to the signage, Nemeroff said.

"It's really important that the two names are in this," Nemeroff said.

As for the future of the Holt Renfrew building, that was not on Tuesday's agenda.

Currently, Holt tenants Dior and Hermès have storefronts on Sherbrooke St. W.

Asked if Holt's luxury tenants, which also includes Chanel, might like to have independent storefronts on Sherbrooke after the move, Derbyshire said: "We would hope that would continue to be great partners."

Nemeroff said she expected there will be a shift to that part of the city, where many new developments are underway.

"I think it will be a destination,'' Derbyshire said. "It will be the store that people remember."

Retail analyst Tony Flanz, president of Think Retail, said there is already a shift westward downtown, sparked by the Apple store and augmented by a strong core of "dynamic retailers'' like Lululemon, Urban Outfitters and Fossil.

It's great news for the city and very positive for both brands, said retail analyst Terry Henderson, president of the Quebec and Atlantic divisions of J.C. Williams Group.

"It is a piece of property in Montreal that has a mystique to it,'' he said, adding he sees the potential for the Ogilvy brand to expand beyond Quebec.

"Strategically, I think it's a good move," said Jeff Berkowitz, president of Aurora Realty Consultants Inc.

"They're going to create a really interesting experience for Montreal."

What Tuesday's announcement failed to answer were questions about plans for a neighbouring hotel and condo development on de la Montagne St. that had been the subject of previous media reports.

What was originally supposed to be a multi-level urban mall was scaled back by about 50,000 square feet, a source told The Gazette. The project's initial multi-level urban mall concept was dropped because it would have been difficult to find retailers willing to lease space on higher floors with less traffic, La Presse reported last month.

Made public by the city of Montreal in 2012 — at the height of the low-interest rate-fuelled real estate boom — the initial Maison Ogilvy plan called for a $150-million project, including an urban mall with underground parking, adjacent to a mixed-use project, combining 110 condos, a 120-room hotel and ground-floor retail space.

The development was initially the brainchild of Ogilvy-owner Selfridges, in partnership with the Quebec Federation of Labour's Fonds de solidarité and Montreal-based developer Devimco Inc. But with the Fonds selling its stake in late 2012, and Devimco changing its corporate structure into two entities — Devimco Immobilier and Carbonleo — the ownership of the project has now evolved.

Carbonleo, headed by president Jean-François Breton, is the owner of the parking lot sandwiched between the Hotel de la Montagne and Wanda's Strip Club. The lot is still going to be transformed into a mixed-use development, but details of the project will only be known in the spring, said Carbonleo spokesperson André Bouthillier.

Both stores will remain open during construction.

WITH FILES FROM ALLISON LAMPERT

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5 floor extension is nice and all, but they could have done more than that, like add a few floors maybe? I mean, who knows if they're ever going to build something next to the old hotel.
     
     
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Photos taken from inside the Hotel de la Montagne demolition back in October...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/charest...h/11756126474/

Here's one of what was left of the rooftop pool before the floor was dismantled.


DSC_0658 by Charest_RakkoonLife, on Flickr

Two rooms (asbestos insulation had to be removed apparently):

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Today's pic. Not a good one, but it shows that something is finally happening here!

     
     
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Very happy to see this one go up finally. It may not be particularly tall, but it will help solidify Montagne street as one of the best in downtown. Hopefully the 18 floor proposal for Wanda's will go ahead one day too. And I can't wait for the parking lot on the other side of the street to be developed as well.
     
     
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A new render for this one. Looking good !


Source: The Gazette

New complex hopes to become the epicentre of downtown Montreal

EVA FRIEDE, MONTREAL GAZETTE
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Published on: March 3, 2015
Last Updated: March 3, 2015 5:41 PM EST

A multimillion-dollar luxury project — hotel, retail space, condos and restaurants — rising next to the Ogilvy department store on de la Montagne St. is a “game-changer” and will be like Westmount Square “on steroids,” says a key executive of the development firm.

Details are finally emerging about the 250,000-square-foot mixed used project by Carbonleo, the developer behind the South Shore Dix30 and a proposed T.M.R. mega mall.

“It’s a game changer for Ste-Catherine St.,” said Andrew Lutfy, chairman of Carbonleo and owner of the Dynamite retail chain, adding there has not been any commercial development downtown on this scale in several generations.

“It’s a city block that is getting completely redeveloped, being led by a $400-million investment.”

Carbonleo broke ground on the project this winter. It will have approximately 50,000 square feet of commercial space, 75 luxurious condos and a five-star global luxury brand hotel with a 400-person capacity ballroom. It will be connected at several levels to a reimagined, combined Holt Renfrew-Ogilvy mega luxury store of 220,000 square feet.

Carbonleo has said the development represents an investment of $200 million. The Holt-Ogilvy expansion pricetag was $60 million when Holt Renfrew owner Selfridges Group announced the merger in November 2013. Both projects are slated for completion at the end of 2017. But Lutfy estimates that when all is said and done, including land purchases, the total investment will be in the $400 million range.

Zoning is for 65 metres, or approximately 20 storeys. The condos will start at the 12th floor, have 11 foot ceilings and panoramic views. Restaurants and groceries will be part of the offerings. Lutfy compared it to Westmount Square — “on steroids” — in its luxury and lifestyle bonuses.

“Basically, we’ll have a fully integrated lifestyle project into Holt-Ogilvy,” he said. “Really, when it’s minus 20, there’s no reason to leave.”

The units will be ultra-luxe, with about 3,500 square feet on average at about $1,400 a square foot, for an average price in the $5 million range.

Lutfy said there are plenty of Montrealers with “a fair amount of wealth. Still, Montreal is Montreal. They have to feel if they’re going to spend that kind of money, it will be an investment that will endure, hold its value down the line and that’s really going to work with their lifestyle.”

“We’re leveraging the entertainment that exists all around,” Lutfy said, naming the Bell Centre, Montreal Museum of Fine Arts, night life and day life in the area.

The condo towers rising around the Bell Centre represents a vote of confidence in the area, he said. “It’s unprecedented, unparalleled investment in the area,” he said. But the cluster of towers just to the south is in an area that “five seconds ago, was just a parking lot,” he said.

They’re all residential, he said of the condo towers. “People need to eat, people need to drink and people need to connect and share – collaborate, shop, have dinner.

“We stand to be the epicentre, if you will. That is our objective — to become the food, beverage epicentre. This is where people will come to connect.”

Holt Renfrew, meanwhile, says it will announce within weeks details of its plans for the expansion and branding of the new store.

The construction project replaces the now demolished Hotel de la Montagne and a parking lot.
     
     
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Not sure about this one... For the vitality of the outdoor shopping/dining scene (streetfront shops, boutiques and restaurants), is another large indoor mall along St. Catherine Street and/or De Maisonneuve Blvd. really sustainable? Or will it drain street life indoors and off of St. Catherine and it's side streets...? Not deadset against it, but far from convinced it will not have a detrimental effect on the neighbourhood around it.

Also, not sure that the massive volume of the complex will be a good thing for the look/feel of Crescent Street just behind it...? Especially if this new huge behemoth of a building dwarfs the entire row of heritage and low-rise buildings just behind it... I'd maybe be reassured after seeing renderings from the Crescent Street perspective... Are there any?
     
     
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