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Old Posted Apr 12, 2019, 12:28 PM
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Wow... When those New York developers set out to strip a building of interest, charm, personality, and character, they don't fuck around, do they?
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Nothing in the remodelled New York buildings looks good. the old 2 Broadway is way more interesting than its current reincarnation.
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Some buildings from Manila (Makati)

Insular Life Building -- Considering this building is in the intersection of two very prominent streets, it looked very out of place before the re-clad. It may have looked good when it was first built, but it looked very dated especially when it's neighbours are new and gleaming glass towers.


Rustan's Department Store. The blue and black design was way more interesting than the beige box that it is now. Yes they are both boxes, but at least the old one was a more beautiful box.




Security Bank. I don't like the old one and neither is the updated version.




The Peninsula Hotel, Manila. I know it is not the whole building, but when it comes to best remodelling in Manila, I could only think of the water feature / facade of The Peninsula Hotel in Makati.



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Nothing in the remodelled New York buildings looks good. the old 2 Broadway is way more interesting than its current reincarnation.
Yep.
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You wouldn't believe what they had planned for One Astor Plaza! Fucking horrible, whoever designed this needs to quit practicing!

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This is the former Bank One tower in Fort Worth, Texas right after a tornado struck the city. My wife was driving home near there at the time. The building was boarded up and slated for demolition, until a developer (Corgan) bought it and did a very nice condo renovation on it...

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Sorry but yeah, the new version looks pretty bad and what's with that tin shed on top?

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salesforce tower (ny) is the only one out of the bunch that i like. i love 2 broadway's original facade too, even if the remodel is acceptable.
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Is it just more or does every building remodeled in New York turn out much worse?
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^ yeah doubtful, if you care to look closer at the eras in which the majority of bad renos were done. its the numbers game, there are always just so many more examples in nyc. you could just as easily show something like say, 450 w33rd st aka 5 manhattan west for one and praise the renovation of that previously hideous eyesore to the skies. and of course, nobody here yet is mentioning interiors either. don't be fooled by outer facades.
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I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who sees more of those New York remodels as downgrades. 52 Broadway, 1 Times Square, and 3 Columbus Circle are especially painful to look at. I do think the 2 Broadway and Trump International remodels were improvements. 2 Broadway's new facade contrasts nicely with it's older neighbors and while the original Gulf & Western building was nice, I prefer it's sleek new look. I can't seem to make up my mind on the 2 Columbus Circle remodel, personally I think they both suck.

I would appreciate the Salesforce Tower remodel so much more if the new facade wasn't so obnoxiously green, the original facade was designed to complement the vertical lines that adorned the facade of the New York Public Library across the street.


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Las Vegas has a few of these:

MGM Grand | Completed in 1975 as the Marina Hotel & Casino, the original structure was later incorporated into the new MGM Grand in 1993.


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The Cromwell | Completed in 1979 as Barbary Coast, reopened as The Cromwell in 2014.


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Ceasars Palace | The original towers constructed between 1966 to 1979 were remodeled in 2001 to reflect the facade of the 1998 Palace Tower addition.


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The Linq | Originally the Imperial Palace, the initial 1977 building had four additional wings added from 1981 to 1987. Reopened in 2014 as The Linq.


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SLS Las Vegas | Originally The Sahara, the three towers were constructed in 1959, 1963, and 1978. The resort reopened as the SLS Las Vegas in 2014.


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Desert Inn | The first two buildings were constructed in 1963 and 1978. In 1997 a third building was added and the other two were remodeled to reflect the new design. The taller building was imploded and the other two in 2004, one of them being only 7 years old. Wynn Las Vegas now stands in it's place.


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The Westin Las Vegas | Opened as The Maxim Hotel in 1977 and reopened as The Westin in 2003.


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Stratosphere Las Vegas | Originally Vegas World, the 1983 tower was later incorporated into the Stratosphere Las Vegas in 1996.


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should vegas even count here? that's like shooting fish in a barrel.
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Here's a few more I know of in Europe:

Tour du Midi, Brussels | Completed in 1967, remodeled in 1996.


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Tour des Finances, Brussels | Completed in 1984, remodeled in 2008.


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Astro Tower, Brussels | Completed in 1976, remodeled in 2003.


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Madou Plaza, Brussels | Completed in 1965, remodeled in 2006.


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Stock Exchange Tower, London | Completed in 1972 remodeled in 2004.


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South Bank Tower, London | Completed in 1978 remodeled in 2015.


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Tour AXA/Tour First, Paris | Completed in 1974, remodeled in 2011.


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Also, a number of NYC postwar glazed red or white brick residential towers are actually rebuilt prewars. The prewar look was extremely unfashionable in the 1950's and 60's.

The Upper East Side, in particular, has a bunch of these. Usually they were stripped down to steel and floors were added, so they're more or less postwar except for the original ceiling heights and proportions.

But now that prewars are more desirable, they're marketed as prewars again.
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I'll throw this one into the mix. Ashville's tallest is undergoing a total reskin.

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I'll throw this one into the mix. Ashville's tallest is undergoing a total reskin.
Damn you, that was supposed to be a secret! Did we not talk about this?

Seriously though, I went downtown for supper last night and happened to eat across the street from this project. I was pleasantly surprised at the materials they're using -- actual stone and tile instead of EIFS styrofoam. I haven't been downtown in daylight in ages, so being able to actually sit and look at the building was rather illuminating.
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On the other hand Toronto fucked up when they had the chance to transform Canada's tallest building from a boring box into something spectacular but instead just chose to go with the exact same featureless look and design after spending over $100 million updating it:


You're nuts, it's called respecting the style of architecture. The marble was falling off and needed to be replaced, there was never any desire or need to drastically change the look of the tower. That would have meant overhauling it's interior space as well which looks as elegant today as I assume it did back in the 70's. Aslo in this picture you can see the restoration work of the TD Centre, Mies van der Rohe's largest and final project before his death. Should they also have done something more then just restore them? Maybe ad rounded edges and paint them mpink?
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488 University Avenue, as you can see here this old office buildings facade war in rough shape with reinforcements on almost half of the windows. A developer purchased the property, added structural support to the 18 storey office tower and is almost done building the new 37 story condo tower above it.

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