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Old Posted Feb 10, 2018, 3:27 AM
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^ You will never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever get that as long as Democrats get reelected.
I don't think it's necessarily a purely Democrat problem, but rather a problem with long-time politicians being in bed with their chosen money machines for decades upon decades on end. Get rid of the old guard, many of the problems will likely be able to be alleviated in fairly short order.

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Old Posted Feb 10, 2018, 4:24 AM
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I don't think it's necessarily a purely Democrat problem, but rather a problem with long-time politicians being in bed with their chosen money machines for decades upon decades on end. Get rid of the old guard, many of the problems will likely be able to be alleviated in fairly short order.

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You are right. But in Illinois, this is specifically a Democratic problem.

They have zero will to face up to this problem, although Kennedy shows a glimmer of a clue. Biss is hopeless and Priztker is an absolute tool. He will single handedly turn Illinois into worthless gelatin if he’s elected.
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You are right. But in Illinois, this is specifically a Democratic problem.

They have zero will to face up to this problem, although Kennedy shows a glimmer of a clue. Biss is hopeless and Priztker is an absolute tool. He will single handedly turn Illinois into worthless gelatin if he’s elected.
Biss, Kennedy, and Pritzker are all very different candidates. Biss and Pritzker are progressive-minded, but Biss is pretty much the anti-Pritzker. Weird that a certain democratic speaker has somehow still managed to win over both the leading democratic hopefuls...

The democratic party in Illinois is huge and leadership has outsize influence. Kennedy comes across a bit more centrist. His public criticism of Madigan and the machine as a democrat is refreshing. Hoping he can pull through.
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FYI, Polls now show Kaegi leading Berrios for the Assessor race. This could be a blow straight to the heart of the corrupt remnants of the Chicago and Crook County machine that feeds Madigan, Cullerton and the other tax appeal racket criminals. Everyone needs to turn out to vote in this race. A Berrios loss would be the most consequential election in recent history in Illinois. Kaegi is planning to throw wrench into the gears of the appeals racket greatly undermining the power and profits of many of the boat anchor politicians holding Illinois down.
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Old Posted Feb 13, 2018, 9:14 PM
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FYI, Polls now show Kaegi leading Berrios for the Assessor race. This could be a blow straight to the heart of the corrupt remnants of the Chicago and Crook County machine that feeds Madigan, Cullerton and the other tax appeal racket criminals. Everyone needs to turn out to vote in this race. A Berrios loss would be the most consequential election in recent history in Illinois. Kaegi is planning to throw wrench into the gears of the appeals racket greatly undermining the power and profits of many of the boat anchor politicians holding Illinois down.
Also this...

http://www.chicagobusiness.com/artic...ichael-madigan

I can only hope this means his days as defacto Supreme Leader of Illinois are rapidly nearing their end.
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Apparently Chicago architecture cruises are the #2 most-booked "experience" on Tripadvisor globally. The only other American one in the top 10 is the Empire State Building.

https://www.tripadvisor.com/blog/tra...eriences-2018/
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Old Posted Feb 15, 2018, 2:30 PM
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Apparently Chicago architecture cruises are the #2 most-booked "experience" on Tripadvisor globally. The only other American one in the top 10 is the Empire State Building.

https://www.tripadvisor.com/blog/tra...eriences-2018/
Not a bad place to be, sandwiched between the Vatican and the Colosseum... Just goes to show the value of great architecture, if only our leaders would realize this and start actually preserving things.

I'm not that surprised though, I have a couple of tenants who work for the tour boat companies. They literally do nothing all winter and then make a years worth of money in like 5 months. They get paid an actual wage and also get tips, pretty sweet gig. I like it because it means free tours for the landlord!
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Old Posted Feb 15, 2018, 3:03 PM
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Apparently Chicago architecture cruises are the #2 most-booked "experience" on Tripadvisor globally. The only other American one in the top 10 is the Empire State Building.

https://www.tripadvisor.com/blog/tra...eriences-2018/
Wow, I really wish Chicago’s leaders would for once capitalize on assets like this in a global marketing push. Unfortunately, we have like zero history of anyone doing that....so let’s just keep talking about how great San Francisco and New York are all day long....
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The talk about rent control continues.

Can I sell off my properties? I think I’m gonna drop this business and skip town if this bullshit passes without at least significant property tax reform....
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Apparently Chicago architecture cruises are the #2 most-booked "experience" on Tripadvisor globally. The only other American one in the top 10 is the Empire State Building.

https://www.tripadvisor.com/blog/tra...eriences-2018/
Further down that list - Field Museum is the 9th most popular "new" event booked by Global travelers.
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The talk about rent control continues.

Can I sell off my properties? I think I’m gonna drop this business and skip town if this bullshit passes without at least significant property tax reform....
I doubt it goes anywhere. Rent control hasn't been effective anywhere it has been enacted and Chicago does not have an affordability issue.
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I doubt it goes anywhere. Rent control hasn't been effective anywhere it has been enacted and Chicago does not have an affordability issue.
I agree. I think our politicians won't pass it. Rahm certainly won't.
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Great piece in Crains about rent control.

http://www.chicagobusiness.com/artic...conomists-view
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I agree. I think our politicians won't pass it. Rahm certainly won't.
Plenty of wackjobs in the city council that will try to push for it, though (Solis, Ramirez-Rosa, etc.)
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Plenty of wackjobs in the city council that will try to push for it, though (Solis, Ramirez-Rosa, etc.)
Not enough though, but of course they exist.
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So I got some data about Chinese, Indian, etc populations in Chicago for 2016 by community area. These are people who, for example, would be 100% Chinese born anywhere in the world.


Chinese, by people
1. Bridgeport: 11,302 people
2. Armour Square: 9812 people
3. Near West Side: 3615 people
4. Brighton Park: 2985 people
5. McKinley Park: 2719 people
6. Near North Side: 2540 people
7. Loop: 2132 people
8. Hyde Park: 1912 people
9. Near South Side: 1892 people
10. Lakeview: 1423 people
11. Douglas: 1416 people
12. Lincoln Park: 1114 people
13. West Ridge: 1027 people
14. Kenwood: 935 people
15. Edgewater: 891 people
16. New City: 758 people
17. Uptown: 678 people
18. Lincoln Square: 633 people
19. Rogers Park: 631 people
20. West Town: 622 people
21. Albany Park: 538 people
22. North Park: 512 people
23. Irving Park: 412 people
24T. Logan Square: 396 people
24T. Woodlawn: 396 people
26. Archer Heights: 359 people
27. West Elsdon: 279 people
28. Norwood Park: 259 people
29. Portage Park: 207 people
30T. Garfield Ridge: 198 people
30T. Jefferson Park: 198 people
32. North Center: 182 people
33. Dunning: 150 people
34. Forest Glen: 142 people
35. Avondale: 141 people
36. Lower West Side: 138 people
37. O'Hare: 114 people

All others under 100. There are 15 community areas each with 0.

Greater Downtown Area (Near North, South, West and the Loop): 10,179 people

Chinese, by percentage of community area's total population
1. Armour Square: 71.96%
2. Bridgeport: 34.40%
3. McKinley Park: 16.92%
4. Near South Side: 8.16%
5. Hyde Park: 7.20%
6. Douglas: 6.89%
7. Brighton Park: 6.75%
8. Loop: 6.09%
9. Near West Side: 5.78%
10. Kenwood: 5.48%
11. Near North Side: 2.94%
12. North Park: 2.73%
13. Archer Heights: 2.71%
14. New City: 1.84%
15. Lincoln Park: 1.66%

Downtown area = 4.91%
Downtown area + Armour Square, Bridgeport, Douglas, Brighton Park, McKinley Park = 11.49%

Indian
1. West Ridge: 5274 people
2. Near North Side: 4266 people
3. Near West Side: 3903 people
4. Loop: 2227 people
5. Lakeview: 2130 people
6. Albany Park: 1899 people
7. Edgewater: 1763 people
8. Near South Side: 1752 people
9. North Park: 1695 people
10. Lincoln Park: 1393 people
11. Douglas: 933 people
12. West Town: 853 people
13. Uptown: 813 people
14. Rogers Park: 683 people
15. Lincoln Square: 676 people
16. Irving Park 577 people
17. O'Hare: 569 people
18. North Center: 516 people
19. Hyde Park: 485 people
20. Logan Square: 410 people
21. Forest Glen: 321 people
22. Kenwood: 208 people
23. Jefferson Park: 204 people
24. Lower West Side: 193 people
25. Avondale: 185 people
26. Edison Park: 170 people
27. Montclare: 167 people
28. Armour Square: 166 people
29. Bridgeport: 164 people
30. Chicago Lawn: 142 people
31. Portage Park: 121 people
32. West Lawn: 117 people
33. Austin: 114 people
34. Woodlawn: 110 people

All others under 100 people each. 19 total community areas with 0 each.

Greater Downtown Area (Near North, South, West and the Loop): 12,148 people


Indian, by percentage of community area's total population
1. North Park: 9.04%
2. Near South Side: 7.55%
3. West Ridge: 7.15%
4. Loop: 6.36%
5. Near West Side: 6.24%
6. Near North Side: 4.94%
7. Douglas: 4.54%
8. Albany Park: 3.68%
9. Edgewater: 3.19%
10. O'Hare: 2.62%
11. Lakeview: 2.13%
12. Lincoln Park: 2.07%
13. Hyde Park: 1.83%
14. Forest Glen: 1.75%
15. Lincoln Square: 1.63%

Downtown area = 5.87%
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^ Good stuff Marothisu. The more diversity in our neighborhoods, the better our city will be.
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Bridgeport may eventually flip majority Chinese.

Great data sleuthing as always.

I wish Indians lived in the city more.
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Old Posted Feb 23, 2018, 10:04 PM
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Ouch!

Get this, though: if I moved to Chicago proper, it wouldn’t budge the foreign born population since I’m a boring American....

Marothisu, I wasn’t clear on your data: are those people who are of 100% Chinese/Indian descent regardless of place of birth, or are they foreign born? If the former, how does the census determine that?
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