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Great headhouse. Problem though is the tunnels and the average station under ground, where little investment has taken place over many years. the MTA needs to get money and that comes with a congestion charge. Make it happen NY.
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Great headhouse. Problem though is the tunnels and the average station under ground, where little investment has taken place over many years. the MTA needs to get money and that comes with a congestion charge. Make it happen NY.
I don't see that happening, but a fare hike is on the horizon (meaning soon). But this isn't about any of that, it's about this glorious new addition to the system, and Downtown. There'll always be something else to gripe about within the subway system.
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That mixing bowl area looks very cramped even now. How long until MTA decks over that little oculus in the middle?
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That mixing bowl area looks very cramped even now. How long until MTA decks over that little oculus in the middle?
I doubt they will, they want that light going down further. (Plus they won't want to spend any money on it).



http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runnin...ton_center.php

Commuters Are Mesmerized by Fulton Center, Lower Manhattan's 'Futuristic' New Transit Hub





By Katie Toth
Nov. 10 2014


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New Yorkers are people who rarely stand still, especially on their commute.
But this morning, the Voice counted about 50 people taking photos, staring at the ceiling, wandering leisurely, and talking with friends -- in the subway, of all places.

Fulton Center, the much-hyped and long-awaited redesigned subway station serving the financial district, was unveiled during a ribbon-cutting ceremony Sunday. The station's centerpiece is its 53-foot-diameter glass oculus over the main atrium. Within the glass cone sits the "sky reflector-net," an art piece made of "112 tensioned cables, 224 high-strength rods and nearly 10,000 stainless steel components," according to an MTA press release.

"I'm really impressed," says Nicolas Ryan, who says he spent two and a half years with Grimshaw Architects as a project manager turning the center from an idea into a reality. "This was a really challenging integration."

Nine different subway lines had to be integrated "in a much better flow of transfers," says Ryan. "And at the same time we wanted to bring much more natural light deep underground."

Judging by the number of locals taking stock of the change, it looks like the efforts paid off.

"This is the new train station," said John LaBombard, 39, to his son as they rode the escalator. "They built it for us."

Five-and-a-half-year-old Nelson LaBombard appreciates the station's 16 new On the Go kiosks. "I like the subway maps," he says. The interactive trip-planning screens were introduced to the MTA earlier this year.

"We live near here and we've been waiting patiently...but this is beyond," says John. "I feel like we're in the future."

Stanley Laurent, a personal trainer from Canarsie, was likewise wowed by the futuristic design. "I'm not down here very often," he says. "It's nice."

Today, business was normal at the station, except for the starry-eyed city-dwellers and at least eight police officers milling around the space.

"This is [in] our precinct," says Officer Hanlon, of Transit District 2. "So we have to get accustomed to it."

Want to see just how much this city loves its oculus?

Check out the photos on the next page.
http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runnin...ter.php?page=2



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I'll agree to stop bitching about this and the new PATH station if MTA and PANYNJ agree to spend the next few billion in capital money on something functional instead of something pretty. However, what they REALLY need to figure out is to actually get the money together ahead of time so that construction can proceed at a decent pace on these projects instead of having them take a decade which causes huge cost increases simply due to interest. The timelines of these projects are just beyond ludicrous.
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I'll agree to stop bitching about this and the new PATH station if MTA and PANYNJ agree to spend the next few billion in capital money on something functional instead of something pretty.
It may be news to you, but the entire reason this was built was to be functional. The bulk of what was done is not in the central occulus, though that is the focal point of it all.


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However, what they REALLY need to figure out is to actually get the money together ahead of time so that construction can proceed at a decent pace on these projects instead of having them take a decade which causes huge cost increases simply due to interest. The timelines of these projects are just beyond ludicrous.

Also, the bulk of the funding came from the feds...


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MTA Capital Construction President Michael Horodniceanu said about $1.27 billion of the $1.4 billion it cost to complete the station came from federal funds, including the largest stimulus package awarded to date.

An additional $847 million came from a 9/11 appropriation from Congress, and $130 million from the MTA in local funds.

Later, while giving reporters a tour of the facility, Horodniceanu said the project finished with about $30 million left over, and the funds will return to the MTA.



http://www.downtownexpress.com/2014/...ers-first-day/

Sounds of ‘wow’ heard on Fulton subway center’s first day




November 10, 2014
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Thirteen years after Sept. 11, the long-awaited $1.4 billion Fulton Center officially opened on Mon., Nov. 10 — the paper has been torn off, the doors flung open, and natural light pours in from the center’s massive glass dome.

The transit hub connects nine subway lines, the A,C to the 4,5 to the J,Z to the 2,3, which were all built between 1905 and 1932 by three different companies that did not want them linked.

Also open is the Dey St. Concourse, a 350-foot pedestrian tunnel that links to the R train. Eventually, the 1, E and PATH will also be connected to the Fulton Center.

At the top of the center, which will also eventually have retail, kiosks and restaurants, is the 53-foot in diameter glass oculus, which has 952 diamond-shaped reflective panels that draws sunlight two flights below street level.

Officials hope the retail will begin opening early next year.

Fifty screens populate the center and will feature service advisories, advertisements and digital art, presented by the Metropolitan Transportation Authority Arts & Design. Some screens line the station’s circle center, with Burberry and T-Mobile already taking turns flashing on the displays.

The first digital art exhibition is called “New York Minute” by Gabriel Barcia-Colombo, which portrays New Yorkers in slow motion. For example, a woman offers bright yellow sunflowers.

If an emergency were to arise, the M.T.A. is able to override all the displays to provide information and instruction.

Huge screens line one side of the new Dey St. Concourse, which felt a little reminiscent of the scene in the 2002 film “The Minority Report,” where several advertisements greet Tom Cruise’s character. The other side of the concourse will eventually be lined with kiosks.

Monday morning, many people were gazing down from the tiered levels while several took photos. Exclamations of “Wow,” and “It’s beautiful” were heard.

“I’m glad it’s done,” said Kirk Siee, who works for the M.T.A. creating way-finding signs. “It’s nice to see the added accessibility.”

“I find it amazing,” said Juliet Payabyab, “I’ve worked Downtown for many years and struggled with my commute.”

Payabyab, who lives in Queens, remembers when Sept. 11 happened and was working Downtown at the time. She has read a lot about the Fulton Center and came on Monday to take pictures. “To see is to believe,” she said.

“It’s beautiful. It’s modern. It seems to be a work of art,” said Jim Graham, who is from Michigan, but comes to New York City every year and taught a college course called “N.Y.C. Close Up.”

Graham said he remembered the old Fulton Station and said, “This is a beautiful replacement.”

Hailing from Columbus, Ohio, but also frequent visitors to New York City, Connie McGreevy and Pat Hadler had heard on the news about the Fulton Center opening and came on Monday to check it out, using the words “amazing” and “stunning” to describe the new station.

McGreevy had been to New York City two weeks after Sept. 11 and Hadler remarked that she felt the pain of New York after the attacks. “This must be very uplifting,” Hadler said of the opening.

“Welcome to New York’s great public space,” said M.T.A. Chairperson Thomas Prendergast. “The center is an important symbol for New York in so many ways.”

“It’s also going to provide a piece of connectivity for Lower Manhattan that did not exist before,” said Prendergast.

The new center was touted as the next great icon for New York akin to the New York Public Library lions and the Grand Central Terminal clock.

“Forget the Grand Central clock, we’re going to come here,” said Borough President Gale Brewer.

“We made it,” said Michael Horodniceanu, the M.T.A.’s capital construction president. “This is an extremely exciting day for us.”

Horodniceanu talked about the preservation of the Corbin Building, which was built in 1889, and how it was restored and its foundation extended with picks, shovels and buckets. The building’s inverted arch was retained and is visible for riders taking certain escalators to the street.


The Fulton Center took over a decade to complete and was originally slated to open on June 26 of this year.

The stations in the center were not significantly damaged in 2001, but officials were able to use post-9/11 transit funds to pay for the redesign, whose costs eventually doubled to $1.4 billion.

Horodniceanu said that the center is climate-controlled and has WiFi. In addition to the screens, there are also help point intercoms.

“After a decade of planning and hard work, we can finally say, let the sun shine in on Fulton Station,” said U.S. Senator Charles Schumer.

Schumer said he remembered the old Fulton Center, which he called a “dank rabbit warren,” and it has been transformed into a “glorious and efficient nucleus of travel.”

“We’ve certainly come a long way from the old Fulton Street Subway Station Complex,” agreed N.Y.C. Transit President Carmen Bianco.

The new center’s thoughtful design, said Bianco, improves passenger flow throughout the station, minimizes congestion and makes transferring easier. It is also A.D.A. complaint, meaning that it is accessible for those with disabilities.

...Community Board 1 Chairperson Catherine McVay Hughes said that mass transit is the key ingredient that makes Lower Manhattan vibrant.

“For those of us living here and for those of who lived through Superstorm Sandy and the terrorist attack of Sept. 11, the new Fulton Center and the Dey St. Concourse are the keeping of a promise made a decade ago that the city, state and federal governments would all invest together to make our neighborhood a world class place to live, work and visit,” said Hughes.

“So much has been said this afternoon about the revival and the resurgence of Lower Manhattan and this is yet another major event that upends outdated notions about what it’s like in Lower Manhattan,” said Jessica Lappin, president of the Downtown Alliance.


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That mixing bowl area looks very cramped even now. How long until MTA decks over that little oculus in the middle?
It looks very cramped at the moment. I guess it will become inefficient by 2022 at least.
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This is a great looking subway station in New York.

It took longer than anticipated but it was somewhat worth it I guess. Oh, and it also feels like an office building with all those cleaners/staff....

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BMT Broadway at Cortlandt Street Station


BMT Broadway at Cortlandt Street Station
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BMT Broadway at Cortlandt Street Station
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Dey Street Concourse
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This is Fulton Center


This is Fulton Center
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This is Fulton Center
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This is Fulton Center
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This is Fulton Center
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Fulton Center Skylight
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This is Fulton Center...Transfer available to the A/C/J/Z Trains
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I really get pissed at this wasted opportunity. It's nice but could have been so much more, especially the exterior form.

And what is the supposedly cash-strapped MTA doing with the massive air rights? They tore down a bunch of highrises for this lowrise complex and are still sitting on the air rights.
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supposedly cash-strapped mta? what kind of conspiracy theory is that? they are definately broke, along with all other public services.

doubtful mta will be holding out on property and air rights assets for long now. the bigger worry is they will let go of them too easily for a song.
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