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Loved that proposal

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it was supposed to be developed into this, but then it got great recessioned.


source:http://www.chicagoarchitecture.info/...k-Michigan.php
Another article on that project says it actually died before the great recession (in 2005). Not sure which architecture blog is correct.. For those interested, the one I found includes a good bit of the site's history:

http://arcchicago.blogspot.com/2012/...-michigan.html
     
     
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is anything else going to take its place?
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Another article on that project says it actually died before the great recession (in 2005).
that's entirely possible. all of the cancelled stuff from that decade is a bit of a blur in my memory.




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is anything else going to take its place?
nothing right now that i'm aware of.

but it will be developed at some point in time. it's vacant property directly on south michigan avenue; it's not going to sit empty for the next 50 years.
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Some of the big columns in the winter garden are installed. They are massive! Going to be a cool space...
     
     
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Essex sure is rising quickly.
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Another article on that project says it actually died before the great recession (in 2005). Not sure which architecture blog is correct.. For those interested, the one I found includes a good bit of the site's history:

http://arcchicago.blogspot.com/2012/...-michigan.html
Yes, if my memory serves me well(it's been a while), that building failed the wind test so it could never get built.
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Yes, if my memory serves me well(it's been a while), that building failed the wind test so it could never get built.
The economy was the reason for 830 South Michigan not being built, not wind tunnel issues.

You don’t think there couldn’t have been modifications made, like the addition of a dampener?
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Old Posted Oct 27, 2017, 5:01 PM
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The economy was the reason for 830 South Michigan not being built, not wind tunnel issues.

You don’t think there couldn’t have been modifications made, like the addition of a dampener?
http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?bu...ildingID=37419

It was apparently both, don't call me fake news my friend
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Old Posted Oct 27, 2017, 5:18 PM
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It could actually be a combination of both. A wind tunnel study would not, on its own, dictate that a building could or could not be built. However, this area has very strong winds (which is why Essex has such large shear walls). They may have found out that the wind study required them to add shear walls or a damper (or both) and the job no longer made sense financially considering a market slow down. Most ways to address high winds require added cost and loss of usable square footage which could make the job unfeasible.
     
     
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Its a shame 830 didn't get built. It really would of helped fill out the skyline to the south.



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^ Definitely would have helped balance the South Loop skyline, and drawn the center of gravity of Chicago's downtown skyline a bit further south.

As for the old 830 S Michigan proposal, I wouldn't worry too much; Once 1000 S Michigan begins construction, the old YMCA parcel will be the very last lot left on Michigan. Really, the last developable lot fronting Grant Park once 2GP begins construction. A parcel that valuable will demand a premium development. I doubt any developer would waste an opportunity like that with a mediocre 600-700 footer. We will probably see a very nice proposal for it in the next market cycle.
     
     
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Its a shame 830 didn't get built. It really would of helped fill out the skyline to the south.
Something tall can still be built, especially on the Wabash parcel. I think the land is owned by the Pritzker's.
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Is the renovation of the Building going on at the same time?

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After the new tower is open, IIRC.
     
     
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^The renovation is timed to complete along with the completion of the apartment tower... first turnover is March 2019.
     
     
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Does anyone know if the pool floors windows are going to be full panels of glass or broken off into sections. If so those are some monster pieces of glass. I'd think their even taller than the new apple stores glass.
     
     
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Does anyone know if the pool floors windows are going to be full panels of glass or broken off into sections. If so those are some monster pieces of glass. I'd think their even taller than the new apple stores glass.
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