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Old Posted Mar 19, 2019, 2:56 PM
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I agree although I think you'd be able to make a compelling case for a 10 to 15 floor hotel. It would be located almost in a perfect place. That would also be a fantastic lobby. The club hasn't really done too much to modify the main part of the building
That actually sounds like a great idea. The kind of place you would really want to stay at when going to Winnipeg. I wish I was young and had a pile of dough lol.
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Old Posted Mar 19, 2019, 2:59 PM
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That actually sounds like a great idea. The kind of place you would really want to stay at when going to Winnipeg. I wish I was young and had a pile of dough lol.
I always thought it was a bit funny that no one built a new hotel in the heart of the Exchange. There have been a couple on the periphery of the area or within walking distance (Mere, Alt, now Hyatt House on the way), but none right in the middle of things. Having one somewhere like the Bodegoes site would really be a perfect place to showcase the heart of the city.
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Old Posted Mar 19, 2019, 3:03 PM
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Well I am young but I don't really have money lol. But yeah if I were rich there's a pile of projects I'd be really excited to take on
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Old Posted Mar 19, 2019, 3:08 PM
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This may be a simplistic question to some, but why does the current Palomino Club building need to be destroyed in order to develop the large empty strip of land next to it? It's not that large a piece of land! I am sure there are architects skilled enough to design a building that would fit into that space, builders capable enough to construct it and accountants savvy enough to make it financially worthwhile.
Ideally, that would be the case: the owner of the two empty lots north of 201 Portage (~30,000 s.f. altogether) develops something taller (12+) here, and leaves the Newmac building alone. The Newmac gets a major renovation and the lot at the corner of Main and McDermot gets a new 6-8 storey building.

But, as with most issues related to downtown development, it’s a matter of who owns what. The owner of the vacant lots may also want to buy up the Newmac and the vacant/patio lot at Main and McDermot and consolidate the properties so that a 30,000 s.f. site is now a 44,000 s.f. site, with all the added design flexibility that comes along with it. Of course it’s very much a departure from the traditionally fine-grain nature of traditional urbanism, but that doesn’t change that there isn’t really a direct way to stop land assembly from happening here.
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Old Posted Mar 19, 2019, 3:22 PM
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My hypothetical question in this instance was specific to this location because there is a heritage building with empty lots on both sides. Quite a unique block with the south end being a modern glass and steel tower and the north end a 100+ year old protected heritage zone.

I was just curious as to peoples thoughts.
I think the damage was done 30-40 years ago, during the years when the McIntyre Building and the old buildings at the NW corner of Portage and Main were demolished. With at least some of those building still standing (nevermind the old Dominion Bank building at Main and McDermot that was demolished in the early 1960s), this would very much feel like part of the Exchange District's built environment, but as it is, the Newmac/Bank of BNA building is a bit of an isolated remnant. I would *love* to see it kept, and development spring up on either side of it, but I don't know if it would be worth saving for its own historic merits alone... simply to be a lone reminder of a previous, now long-gone streetscape.
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Old Posted Mar 19, 2019, 3:32 PM
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I think the damage was done 30-40 years ago, during the years when the McIntyre Building and the old buildings at the NW corner of Portage and Main were demolished. With at least some of those building still standing (nevermind the old Dominion Bank building at Main and McDermot that was demolished in the early 1960s), this would very much feel like part of the Exchange District's built environment, but as it is, the Newmac/Bank of BNA building is a bit of an isolated remnant. I would *love* to see it kept, and development spring up on either side of it, but I don't know if it would be worth saving for its own historic merits alone... simply to be a lone reminder of a previous, now long-gone streetscape.
Exactly this. If you left the Bank of BNA Building in place and built around it, then at Main and McDermot you are either building a) a modern design which does nothing to contribute to the historic character of the Exchange District, or b) a pseudo-historical set piece of a building built to blend with the old buildings but which would inevitably be even worse than the modern design.

The damage was done in the 70s, there is really not that much left to save. IMO the biggest argument for preserving the Bank of BNA is that it forces developers to do something slightly more fine-grained in nature as wardlow mentioned, as opposed to one mega-development stretching from 201 Portage right up to McDermot.
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Old Posted Mar 19, 2019, 11:03 PM
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Interestingly enough, this is somewhat similar to the Pantages Context. Heritage building with vacant lots on either side, one now being the quasi-plaza, not dissimilar to the Pal's patio. Then you've got a more modern building down the street from that, RMTC, or in the case of the Pal, 201 Portage.
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They will have to work with the conflict between new development and heritage some day. In my opinion as the speed of development is getting greater a strategy have to be developed, like buying and demolishing those big box stores on Portage and start new development there.
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