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Old Posted May 11, 2010, 4:52 AM
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I love that bridge logo where did you find it?
Yeah, great logo. I can just see what the designer was thinking - "let's cram in every symbol of the city we can think if, and the moon too! The jet can drop a nuclear bomb to make the sky red, and then crash into the bridge. Oh, and we definitely need some kind of swoosh to make it look extreme."
     
     
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Old Posted May 11, 2010, 4:53 AM
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remove thunder bay, add in Winnipeg. Remove Saskatoon, and put in Kansas City, Oklahoma, or Las Vegas...change out AHL and put in the word NHL and your statement still is true!
Except that nobody in Kansas City, OK City or Las Vegas gives two shits about hockey, it would be like putting AAA baseball in Calgary or Edmonton, the NBA in Vancouver or even CFL franchises in American cities, nobody would bother to go!
     
     
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Old Posted May 11, 2010, 5:07 AM
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Indeed, I'm still a bit skeptical till i hear it from Bettman that they're working to bring the team here.
if the deal fails in phoenix, they are returning to winnipeg.....trust me.
     
     
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I love those two concepts. I'd only hope that if a team did return to Winnipeg and did call themselves the Jets, they went with one of those.

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The Vancouver / Montreal / Toronto media happen to be the most hysteric. Calgary / Edmonton (I don't know about Ottawa...) almost seem a bit... indifferent in comparison.

I could see Winnipeg being similar, certainly not as bad as Vancouver / Montreal / Toronto.

I also dare say the average person may be a bit more respectful of the athletes privacy than in Vancouver / Montreal / Toronto
I'd can say for certainty that in Vancouver we're fairly respectful of the athletes privacy. I've noticed that about other celeb's around as well. More used to the attention that way I suppose.

That said, Edmonton's press when it comes to the Oil used to be comparable to Toronto or Montreal. I understand why guys like Pronger and Peca left town.
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if the deal fails in phoenix, they are returning to winnipeg.....trust me.
I'd say the outlook is pretty good then
     
     
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That bridge logo "is trying to hard". Simple elegance is better: e.g., Detroit Red Wings, Montreal Canadians.


Although not so simple as the banal Toronto Marble Loafs.
     
     
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this is a bit OT, but the 1927-1928 Detroit Tigers have to have the worst logo ever


Followed closely by the Hamilton Tigers

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That be some mighty impressive lung capacity you have there.
Yeah, that's what my ex-gf said at one of her pool parties.

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Indeed, I'm still a bit skeptical till i hear it from Bettman that they're working to bring the team here.
Knowing that sleazeball, this is far from a done deal. He'll somehow find a way to keep the Phoenix Coyotes in Glendale.
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Someone from Winnipeg should start a rumour that the Los Coyote's roster is filled by illegal Mexican(and Canadian) immigrants, that should get the team kicked out of Phoenix immediately.. I'm sure grandpa McCain would go ballistic
     
     
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Ice Edge out; True North silent
Coyotes' suitor walks away from Glendale negotiations


By: Gary Lawless | Winnipeg Free Press

11/05/2010 1:00 AM

The folks at True North Sports and Entertainment aren't making a peep right now.

Don't be fooled, however, into thinking there's no action going on in the downtown rink's basement offices.

What Glendale council will vote on
-- Glendale city councillors will vote tonight on the NHL's demands to cover operating losses incurred by the Phoenix Coyotes next season if the team cannot be sold to a group that will operate the team at Jobing.com Arena.

-- A vote in favour of satisfying the NHL's requirements would enable the city manager to try to secure the financial mechanisms (a bank note or line of credit) to meet the NHL's demands.

-- The NHL wants a guarantee any losses incurred by the Coyotes in 2010-11 are covered should they have to operate the team again.

-- A yes vote does not satisfy the NHL's demands but only gives the city manager the authority to attempt to do so. Only a certified financial agreement will satisfy the NHL. In essence, Glendale must make a contract with a financial institution to cover these losses that have been estimated in the $30-million range.

-- The vote passes with a simple majority.



What the agenda says

Here's the memo in the Glendale city countil agenda notes:



Authority to satisfy the NHL's requirements for Phoenix Coyotes



PURPOSE: This is a request for city council to grant the city manager authority to sign the agreements and secure the financial mechanisms that are reasonably necessary to satisfy the NHL's requirements in order for the NHL Phoenix Coyotes to remain in Glendale during the NHL 2010-11 season.



-- The NHL has expressed its intention to keep the team in Glendale, but has established deadlines and imposed requirements that require certain immediate financial commitments and assurances by the City of Glendale.



-- The agreements allow the team to remain in place for the NHL 2010-11 season; allowing staff the necessary time to complete the required agreements with the ownership group that will be committed to retaining the team in Glendale for the remainder of the orginal lease term.



-- Source: City of Glendale

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What do you think will happen at Glendale council Tuesday? Monday night's late-breaking news that Ice Edge Holdings has stepped away from its negotiations with the city of Glendale didn't change the no comment stance the organization has taken on the subject of the NHL returning to Winnipeg.

Don't be surprised, however, if phone discussions and meetings were keeping True North chairman Mark Chipman and his people busy after the news began emanating from Phoenix.

"Talks have broken off," Ice Edge Holdings chief operating officer Daryl Jones told the Free Press late Monday night. "We were adamant about needing exclusivity in these negotiations and they haven't provided it. I'm not totally surprised. We've been dealing with this for a while. We thought we had agreed to certain things and expected them in writing. That didn't materialize."

Ice Edge had been working with Glendale city council to draft a lease agreement that was agreeable to both parties. Once a lease was agreed upon, Ice Edge had hoped to buy the Coyotes from the NHL, which purchased the club out of bankruptcy last fall.

Glendale city council is still expected to vote on a request to satisfy a number of NHL demands, including one that would see the city put together a financial guarantee to cover any losses incurred by the Coyotes for the 2010-11 season if the NHL is forced to operate the team for a second season.

"No comment," was all True North Sports and Entertainment communications director Scott Brown had to say when reached Monday and asked about the latest developments in Phoenix.

Ice Edge stepping out of the deal will leave Glendale city council with the choice of agreeing to cover losses for next season while the NHL tries to find a new buyer or to refuse the option and likely see the Coyotes relocated to a new city.

The hockey world is waiting to see what unfolds as the NHL and the city of Glendale battle in an attempt to keep hockey in the desert. True North is sitting off to the side and watching with interest like a duck on a pond, all calm on the surface but paddling furiously below the waterline.

Should the Coyotes become available for relocation, the NHL and True North are in position to act fast and come to a quick agreement. A deal to purchase an NHL team usually takes months but Chipman and his team have been working alongside the NHL for some time and the majority of work on such a pact has been done.

Chipman isn't interested in making headlines about rumours and hypothetical situations. His goal is to secure an NHL team.

They've mostly made the correct moves and now find themselves close to a checkmate position. True North has made no secret of their interest in acquiring an NHL franchise if and when a deal is presented that makes sense.

Is that the Coyotes? Maybe. But at this stage, that deal sits in the hands of seven civic politicians in Glendale, Ariz.

Glendale city council will vote tonight to accept or turn down a list of demands put forth by the NHL. Chief among them is a guarantee to cover operating losses incurred by the Coyotes next season if the team cannot be sold to a group that will operate the team at Jobing.com Arena going forward.

It should be noted that any vote by Glendale city council does not end this saga one way or another. If they vote no to the NHL's demands, the heat gets turned up and True North will likely find itself in position to try and complete negotiations with the NHL over the purchase of the Coyotes. An agreement could be finalized in a matter of days.

A yes vote merely gives Glendale city manager Ed Beasley the authority to attempt to satisfy the NHL's conditions. There's no guarantee that will happen and the window to get it done is days, not weeks.



The NHL wants "certain immediate financial commitments and assurances," and if they can't receive them it's believed the league will begin the process of selling the franchise to a group that would relocate the team. Winnipeg is at the top of the list of potential relocation markets.

That's where Chipman and his group would come in. There have been reports that a purchase agreement between True North and the NHL is already in place but no one from True North has confirmed those reports.

More likely is a situation where Chipman and the NHL have discussed what both parties would need for a deal to be brokered and work has been done in the background to get each group in position to satisfy those needs.

A deal, such as purchasing and relocating an NHL franchise, can't normally be done in a week.

True North, however, should they enter negotiations to purchase the Coyotes from the NHL, wouldn't have the luxury of time to close a deal either if they want to play in the 2010-11 season.

Most of the details will have to be worked out in a short time and True North isn't in the habit of being disorganized. Somewhere, in an office with several locks on the door, are True North's NHL plans. You can be sure of that.

If you'll recall, Chipman and Co. quietly went about their business putting together an arena package and made no noise about it until the project was shovel-ready with financing, land and contractors in place.

You can see the results of that method of operation by driving down Portage Avenue and checking out the MTS Centre, home of the AHL's Manitoba Moose but capable of housing an NHL team.

Silence has been golden for Chipman in the past and to date his strategy has been sound.

Perhaps you'll be able to see the fruits of that labour playing against the likes of the Montreal Canadiens and Toronto Maple Leafs as soon as this fall.
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While it sounds encouraging, the Las Vegas Dice or whatever seem more likely, still
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While it sounds encouraging, the Las Vegas Dice or whatever seem more likely, still
I think most people have accepted that if the team doesn't play in Phoenix next year, it WILL be Winnipeg. Hamilton and Quebec don't have a facility the NHL considers "worthy", KC has no ownership ready, and LV doesn't really have either.

As mentioned in the article above, it's not like you can just whip up a deal in a week or three. If LV or KC was on anyone's radar at all, surely we'd have heard *something* by now. Even just a rumour. So far the only time they're mentioned is in "what if?" type scenarios.

Who knows though. The NHL is clever, and I wouldn't bet my life savings against the team going to LV, I just don't think it's very likely at this point.
     
     
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I think most people have accepted that if the team doesn't play in Phoenix next year, it WILL be Winnipeg. Hamilton and Quebec don't have a facility the NHL considers "worthy",
They just need to knock on Balsille's door. He has deep pockets, Copps Coliseum all lined up, and a redevelopment plan to make it even better.

But I do agree with you: Winnipeg was always the backup-backup plan.
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Except that nobody in Kansas City, OK City or Las Vegas gives two shits about hockey, it would be like putting AAA baseball in Calgary or Edmonton, the NBA in Vancouver or even CFL franchises in American cities, nobody would bother to go!
Edmonton and Calgary both had a triple A baseball team for many years.

Oklohoma City is pretty big into Hockey, see their college and universities for example. Same with Kansas City, but not as much.
     
     
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Those chickens have been counted ten-fold now...
     
     
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Oklohoma City is pretty big into Hockey, see their college and universities for example. .
Define big please.
     
     
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