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optimusREIM · #**3081** Posted **Aug 2, 2017, 3:06 PM**

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Originally Posted by buzzg

If you have a chance to drive down Carlton, you should. Really get a feel for how immense (and dense) this project is. That plaza is going to feel overwhelming, in a good way. Can't wait for Sutton Place to go ahead, it's going to be an awesome experience on Carlton, if they get towers 3 and 4 right.

My hope is that the square sorta spills into the Sutton place project a bit kinda along the arc formed by tower 2.

Maybe something like this:

Very rough but you get the idea of integrating the lines from the current build.

Biff · #**3082** Posted **Aug 2, 2017, 3:15 PM**

....new page, updated photo

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optimusREIM · #**3083** Posted **Aug 2, 2017, 3:21 PM**

Reclaiming your place as the official image bumper?

^^

Biff · #**3084** Posted **Aug 2, 2017, 3:56 PM**

^^^Stayed up all night.

BAKGUY · #**3085** Posted **Aug 2, 2017, 5:01 PM**

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Originally Posted by optimusREIM

Quietly, the residential tower is starting to pick up some speed. That's a solid 3 floors in the last month. My guess is it will almost be the same height as the office building when it tops out. It will be close. Very exciting nonetheless to see how much progress is taking place!

It was my understanding that tower 2 will or might have some residential, not exclusively or entirely. I thought there will be a mixed usage with a fair size of it for office space as well, perhaps as market demands going forward?
I am guessing residential @ tower 2 would be rentals with Sutton Place condos as tower 4?

bomberjet · #**3086** Posted **Aug 2, 2017, 5:06 PM**

There will be boutique office and residential apartments in tower 2. I think the first 3 floors or something are the office part.

Sutton Place was to have condos and the hotel.

Biff · #**3087** Posted **Aug 2, 2017, 5:54 PM**

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Originally Posted by BAKGUY

It was my understanding that tower 2 will or might have some residential, not exclusively or entirely. I thought there will be a mixed usage with a fair size of it for office space as well, perhaps as market demands going forward?
I am guessing residential @ tower 2 would be rentals with Sutton Place condos as tower 4?

The first 4 floors of Tower 2 commercial/office space. The remaining floors are residential.

Wolf13 · #**3088** Posted **Aug 2, 2017, 9:12 PM**

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Originally Posted by Biff

The first 4 floors of Tower 2 commercial/office space. The remaining floors are residential.

Interesting, that's definitely news to me.

I'm still not bullish on our downtown office market but if they fill this without cannibalizing the downtown market I'll be ecstatic!

biguc · #**3089** Posted **Aug 3, 2017, 12:15 AM**

Is creating a hellish wind tunnel on Graham and Hargraves part of the plan to drive people into the square? I never noticed on the renderings that there's zero setback on those towers.

robertocarlos · #**3090** Posted **Aug 3, 2017, 1:10 PM**

TNSE can do no wrong. It's the wind's fault.

optimusREIM · #**3091** Posted **Aug 3, 2017, 2:13 PM**

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Originally Posted by biguc

Is creating a hellish wind tunnel on Graham and Hargraves part of the plan to drive people into the square? I never noticed on the renderings that there's zero setback on those towers.

Obviously it had to be approved by someone. When I first saw the plans that did in fact occur to me that it would be a wind funnel but I thought that the engineers and architects knew better and that I was probably just misinformed... turns out the logic is sound.

esquire · #**3092** Posted **Aug 3, 2017, 2:17 PM**

Meh. Downtown Winnipeg is a giant wind tunnel at the best of times, I doubt TNS will make any appreciable difference. When I used to live at 15 Kennedy, it often felt like there was a stiff cold breeze blasting down Kennedy all winter long.

Wolf13 · #**3093** Posted **Aug 3, 2017, 8:50 PM**

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Originally Posted by biguc

Is creating a hellish wind tunnel on Graham and Hargraves part of the plan to drive people into the square? I never noticed on the renderings that there's zero setback on those towers.

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Originally Posted by robertocarlos

TNSE can do no wrong. It's the wind's fault.

well true

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Meh. Downtown Winnipeg is a giant wind tunnel at the best of times, I doubt TNS will make any appreciable difference. When I used to live at 15 Kennedy, it often felt like there was a stiff cold breeze blasting down Kennedy all winter long.

Setbacks can certainly be useful for streetscaping and creating interactive space between project and road, but that was never the agenda for TNSE... it was alllll about sucking people into a vortex of mixed use density. It makes sense to minimize setbacks here because you simply cannot squeeze this ambition into the site otherwise.

Setbacks are often the bane and guillotine of ambitious projects, so I'm not upset about this one.

As for the wind... well, whatever, minor problem IMO

The Jabroni · #**3094** Posted **Aug 3, 2017, 10:05 PM**

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Originally Posted by optimusREIM

Reclaiming your place as the official image bumper?

^^

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^^^Stayed up all night.

It's about time.

robertocarlos · #**3095** Posted **Aug 4, 2017, 7:42 PM**

You are probably damned if you do and damned if you don't. Broadview Manor has setback CRUs and that was described as not good by that UofW article on parkades.
The set back came in handy today with the thunderstorm.

I still would like to see a project built using a whole city block so that there are no compromises.

bomberjet · #**3096** Posted **Aug 4, 2017, 7:45 PM**

Pouring concrete in the rain over the last hour or two.

Also can see the ramp is taking shape along Carlton under the podium.

Jets4Life · #**3097** Posted **Aug 4, 2017, 8:43 PM**

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Originally Posted by biguc

Is creating a hellish wind tunnel on Graham and Hargraves part of the plan to drive people into the square? I never noticed on the renderings that there's zero setback on those towers.

Any worse than Portage & Main?

BAKGUY · #**3098** Posted **Aug 4, 2017, 9:30 PM**

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Originally Posted by Wolf13

Interesting, that's definitely news to me.

I'm still not bullish on our downtown office market but if they fill this without cannibalizing the downtown market I'll be ecstatic!

With Sterling Bldg. and Medical Arts Office towers converting to residential, It will help a bit for new office market. Plus it does grow some each year. In a couple of years I can see some proposal for some major office tower for early 2020 's

buzzg · #**3099** Posted **Aug 4, 2017, 9:40 PM**

Also, I think people are downplaying the impact Bell's fibre network will have on the tech industry here. Winnipeg is already being recognized as top-tier market for tech companies, due to a really great community and low cost-of-business. This could have a massive domino effect where we see a lot of tech companies setting up shop here.

BAKGUY · #**3100** Posted **Aug 5, 2017, 12:28 AM**

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Originally Posted by buzzg

Also, I think people are downplaying the impact Bell's fibre network will have on the tech industry here. Winnipeg is already being recognized as top-tier market for tech companies, due to a really great community and low cost-of-business. This could have a massive domino effect where we see a lot of tech companies setting up shop here.

I am optimistic as well. Hoping it translates to decent paying jobs )which of late we have lost plenty of) and the increased demand for more office space.