Winnipeg Seedy Hotels

[Jets4Life]

When will Winnipeg close down all the seedy bars that only are magnets for criminals and addicts. Imagine how much better Osborne Village and West Broadway would be if they redevolped the Sherbrook Inn and the Osborne Village Inn.

Eventually they can redevelop the Garrick, Winnipeg, Yale, Mount Royal, Northern, Sutherland, and all North Main Hotels. Edmonton and Calgary did the same thing, and crime has dropped in the inner city (although it has worsened in some other areas).

[jmt18325]

The OVI is closed, and has been for some time?

[rrskylar]

Originally Posted by Jets4Life

When will Winnipeg close down all the seedy hotels that only are magnets for criminals and addicts. Imagine how much better Osborne Village and West Broadway would be if the closed down the Sherbrook Inn and the Osborne Village Inn.

Eventually they can tear down the Garrick, Winnipeg, Yale, Mount Royal, Northern, Sutherland, and all North Main Hotels. Edmonton and Calgary did the same thing, and crime has dropped in the inner city (although it has worsened in some other areas).

Closing the Main Street strip hotels and beverage rooms only moved the problem elsewhere, the St. Regis, Vendome, Woodbine, Windsor became worse dive bars then they already were.

[hexrae]

Originally Posted by rrskylar

Closing the Main Street strip hotels and beverage rooms only moved the problem elsewhere, the St. Regis, Vendome, Woodbine, Windsor became worse dive bars then they already were.

I thought the hotel remains but St. Regis bar was closed some time ago?

Edit: Also, if you close all the downtown locations (those listed), where does the clientele move to? Elmwood, West End, Northend, Osborne?

I live in the West End and this hotel came to mind:
http://www.concordmotorhotel.ca/

Is that a serious website for that hotel?

[rrskylar]

Originally Posted by hexrae

I thought the hotel remains but St. Regis bar was closed some time ago?

Edit: Also, if you close all the downtown locations (those listed), where does the clientele move to? Elmwood, West End, Northend, Osborne?

I live in the West End and this hotel came to mind:
http://www.concordmotorhotel.ca/

Is that a serious website for that hotel?

Actually pretty funny!

[armorand93]

Originally Posted by hexrae

I thought the hotel remains but St. Regis bar was closed some time ago?

Edit: Also, if you close all the downtown locations (those listed), where does the clientele move to? Elmwood, West End, Northend, Osborne?

I live in the West End and this hotel came to mind:
http://www.concordmotorhotel.ca/

Is that a serious website for that hotel?

It reminds me of something out of South Park...

[Jets4Life]

Originally Posted by hexrae

I thought the hotel remains but St. Regis bar was closed some time ago?

Edit: Also, if you close all the downtown locations (those listed), where does the clientele move to? Elmwood, West End, Northend, Osborne?

I live in the West End and this hotel came to mind:
http://www.concordmotorhotel.ca/

Is that a serious website for that hotel?

LOL...that website is hilarious. I wonder if anyone has been duped by it.

[Andy6]

Originally Posted by Jets4Life

LOL...that website is hilarious. I wonder if anyone has been duped by it.

They have an elevator that takes you to Soho?

[Jets4Life]

Originally Posted by rrskylar

Closing the Main Street strip hotels and beverage rooms only moved the problem elsewhere, the St. Regis, Vendome, Woodbine, Windsor became worse dive bars then they already were.

On a positive note, North Main (at least south of the CPR tracks), has become a lot more appealing (sans the Salvation Army/Main Street Project). I know people will always have vice, but if these seedy bars are closed, a lot of the antisocial behaviour you find drunk people associated with, will seem much less sanctioned, and it will make the areas safer.

I doubt you will get the same clientele leaping from a North Main bar to Elmwood or other close areas. The people who frequent those establishments are down on their luck, and most don't have a vehicle to drive. It's better for them to drink at home anyway.

[1ajs]

Originally Posted by Jets4Life

On a positive note, North Main (at least south of the CPR tracks), has become a lot more appealing (sans the Salvation Army/Main Street Project). I know people will always have vice, but if these seedy bars are closed, a lot of the antisocial behaviour you find drunk people associated with, will seem much less sanctioned, and it will make the areas safer.

I doubt you will get the same clientele leaping from a North Main bar to Elmwood or other close areas. The people who frequent those establishments are down on their luck, and most don't have a vehicle to drive. It's better for them to drink at home anyway.

They cab to the bar ever gone watched how many cabs are at those bars coming and going it's nuts


Our seedy bars have become safer over the years.

If u want to change North main someone needs to buy the new west and the suds poor money into them and make them into traveling musical hostels partner with vineyard church as they also have a recording studio in their building. Not something u would see a return on investment no doubt but a wortgy investment to boost other potential investments on the area

[DavefromSt.Vital]

Does anyone know what is currently happening with the Winnipeg?

[borkborkbork]

They closed the Osborne Village Inn, and it's made the neighbourhood shittier.

Previously: Music venue. Beer vendor. Awesome diner.

Currently: Vacant building surrounded by construction fencing.

[Urban recluse]

I think Main Street would be preferable with those hotels still in existence but redeveloped.
North on Main, yes, without a doubt, those hotels need to be closed and redeveloped.

In terms of Calgary and Edmonton, there was plenty to replace those seedy dives with.

[buzzg]

I would not consider the Sherbrook that "seedy" - sure it's low-end, but a lot of locals hang out there, socials and good parties a lot, Tallest Poppy.

The Garrick Hotel (yes, not the Garrick Centre) has become a popular music venue in recent years.

The Woodbine was taken over by new people a year or two ago. They're freshening up the place a little. Sure, not converting to boutique hotel by any means, but they put up some new signage at the front and rear entrances last week. It's full of hipsters watching music on weekends now.

There are definitely some BAD ones around that need to be closed, don't get me wrong, but they're not all horrible. Just because they're not everyone's cup of tea doesn't mean they don't provide a net benefit for the area. Woodbine in particular has been much more diligent with security in the last year or two, making sure people who are too far gone aren't hanging out outside. Plus, if it were gone - is anyone in the Exchange going to get beer after 10 pm?

[tree]

I noticed about last year the Windsor stopped being a vendor. It's been better around there since - wonder if it has to do with new police HQ though (lots of cars pulling out right on the corner there).

Are these places actually hotels? Whats the story with places like this. Can't see anyone paying to stay in one.

(sorry if super dumb question but I walk by the Windsor almost every day and just assumed it had people living for really cheap in the 'hotel' side of it)

[Riverman]

Originally Posted by tree

I noticed about last year the Windsor stopped being a vendor. It's been better around there since - wonder if it has to do with new police HQ though (lots of cars pulling out right on the corner there).

Are these places actually hotels? Whats the story with places like this. Can't see anyone paying to stay in one.

(sorry if super dumb question but I walk by the Windsor almost every day and just assumed it had people living for really cheap in the 'hotel' side of it)

They are full of long time residents. Lots of hotels like that, I know of one person that lived in the Green Brier for 30 years.

[OTA in Winnipeg]

Originally Posted by tree

I noticed about last year the Windsor stopped being a vendor. It's been better around there since - wonder if it has to do with new police HQ though (lots of cars pulling out right on the corner there).

Are these places actually hotels? Whats the story with places like this. Can't see anyone paying to stay in one.

(sorry if super dumb question but I walk by the Windsor almost every day and just assumed it had people living for really cheap in the 'hotel' side of it)

Probably a good thing the vendor closed. Tenants come and go, some are long timers. Bedbugs and cockroaches in the whole place, They let the tenants keep cats to control the rodents.

And there's also the McLaren Hotel and the Manwin.

[biguc]

The premise of this thread is not only mistaken, it's malthusian and elitist. Poor people should be allowed to have fun.

Originally Posted by tree

I noticed about last year the Windsor stopped being a vendor. It's been better around there since - wonder if it has to do with new police HQ though (lots of cars pulling out right on the corner there).

Are these places actually hotels? Whats the story with places like this. Can't see anyone paying to stay in one.

(sorry if super dumb question but I walk by the Windsor almost every day and just assumed it had people living for really cheap in the 'hotel' side of it)

Like Riverman said, they're long stay. They basically provide low income housing subsidized by booze sales. Unless we want to pay more taxes to rehouse their tenants in state subsidized places, or suffer with more crime and homelessness when these people hit the streets, I suggest we keep them around.

They also provide transitional housing for people getting out of jail and such that have nowhere else to go. I once had a pretty wild night at the Windsor drinking with a guy who had just gotten out of jail and was living in the room that used to have a confederate flag in the window. I got him to take it down. It's really weird up there, anyway. Cats everywhere. One bathroom to a floor so this guy kept pissing in the sink in his room. I bounced when the cracks dealer rolled through and started getting squirrelly with me.

I'm too old now for those kind of antics but I do miss the Windsor vendor. Between it and ovi closing, it's getting hard to buy beer around here.

[tree]

Originally Posted by biguc

The premise of this thread is not only mistaken, it's malthusian and elitist. Poor people should be allowed to have fun.





Like Riverman said, they're long stay. They basically provide low income housing subsidized by booze sales. Unless we want to pay more taxes to rehouse their tenants in state subsidized places, or suffer with more crime and homelessness when these people hit the streets, I suggest we keep them around.

They also provide transitional housing for people getting out of jail and such that have nowhere else to go. I once had a pretty wild night at the Windsor drinking with a guy who had just gotten out of jail and was living in the room that used to have a confederate flag in the window. I got him to take it down. It's really weird up there, anyway. Cats everywhere. One bathroom to a floor so this guy kept pissing in the sink in his room. I bounced when the cracks dealer rolled through and started getting squirrelly with me.

I'm too old now for those kind of antics but I do miss the Windsor vendor. Between it and ovi closing, it's getting hard to buy beer around here.

Thanks. I wasn't trying to sound judgemental but honestly had no idea what goes on. Just doesn't seem like it would pass health codes etc.

[1ajs]

Speaking of seedy bars anyone popped into the kings? Cleaned up quite a bit also herd a rummor the underground cafe is reopening in part of it