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[Vlajos]

Originally Posted by tjp

I was just at a multifamily housing conference over lunch, and the couple of developers I talked to seemed to be under the impression both candidates support increasing the ARO significantly (someone said 30%). Has anyone else heard this? I can't find any record of either Lightfoot or Preckwinkle talking about ARO specifically.

I think I read that Lightfoot is in favor of it. I'm sure Prekwinkle is too.

Here's a link to Crains questionnaire. It has a link to Lighfoot's affordable housing proposal.

https://www.chicagobusiness.com/gove...lori-lightfoot

[Halsted & Villagio]

Originally Posted by UPChicago

Why all the hate for Preckwinkle, other than the sugar tax and the penny tax her record as board president has been great and she has made real reforms and other incremental changes which have greatly benefited the county. The county is in much better condition under her than under her predecessor, that's a fact.

Time to end the machine. Plain and simple. Peckwinkle is an old school pay to play/patronage politician through and through. For a city finally taking substantial steps to clean up corruption, electing her would be a major step backwards.

[UPChicago]

Originally Posted by Halsted & Villagio

Time to end the machine. Plain and simple. Peckwinkle is an old school pay to play/patronage politician through and through. For a city finally taking substantial steps to clean up corruption, electing her would be a major step backwards.

I could understand this being a reason, its part of the reason I may support Lori in the runoff but too many people here have favorited candidates who were just as if not more connected to the machine over her for this to be the general consensus.

[tjp]

nvm

[tjp]

Originally Posted by Vlajos

I think I read that Lightfoot is in favor of it. I'm sure Prekwinkle is too.

Here's a link to Crains questionnaire. It has a link to Lighfoot's affordable housing proposal.

https://www.chicagobusiness.com/gove...lori-lightfoot

Based on her position paper, it seems she just supports doubling the amount of affordable units that actually have to be built on-site or within a certain distance from the property (from 25% to 50%). Doesn't seem crazy.

https://lightfootforchicago.com/wp-c...er_Housing.pdf
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[jtown,man]

I love how everyone here is ignoring that Wilson, the most conservative person running, won some of the blackest areas of town and some of the poorest.

Maybe poor black people actually like anti-crime/pro-growth ideas?

[Halsted & Villagio]

Originally Posted by UPChicago

I could understand this being a reason, its part of the reason I may support Lori in the runoff but too many people here have favorited candidates who were just as if not more connected to the machine over her for this to be the general consensus.

True... in theory... for those who voted for Daley... but in the end I felt that: a) holding Daley's family against him was not entirely fair, b) I thought he would be good for business, and c) I liked his work with the Obama administration. So given the dearth of great candidates, on balance, I went with the guy I knew.

With Peckwinkle we have hard evidence of her being a machine politician. She was exposed through her bodyguard and head of security. I found him to be very credible. The fact that he was caught using a county vehicle to secretly campaign for one of Peckwinkle's cronies provided considerable evidence of the way she operates. Add in her ties to Burke and you have all the ingredients for just the kind of behavior we are trying to get rid of. This, to me, was hard evidence. The evidence against Daley was more speculative in nature.

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[the urban politician]

Originally Posted by UPChicago

I think the County's shrinking budget deficit and credit rating speaks for itself..

That’s what you get when property taxes go up year after year after year after year after year and you see a massive boom in construction in the core of the County causing even more gobs of money to fill up County coffers.

None of that is due to Preckwinkle. All of that is because her archrival Rahm Emanuel broadcast to the world that Chicago is open for business. We’ve got talent, great food, great architecture, and we want you to work and live here. And that’s what happened.

Preckwinkle, and I promise you this, will send the exact opposite message if she wins. She doesn’t understand what makes Chicago great. But I’ll give you a hint—it’s not keeping schools with 5 kids in them open just so that the teachers can keep drawing a salary.

[Vlajos]

Originally Posted by jtown,man

I love how everyone here is ignoring that Wilson, the most conservative person running, won some of the blackest areas of town and some of the poorest.

Maybe poor black people actually like anti-crime/pro-growth ideas?

Great point. Doesn't fit the narrative though.

[Vlajos]

Originally Posted by the urban politician

That’s what you get when property taxes go up year after year after year after year after year and you see a massive boom in construction in the core of the County causing even more gobs of money to fill up County coffers.

None of that is due to Preckwinkle. All of that is because her archrival Rahm Emanuel broadcast to the world that Chicago is open for business. We’ve got talent, great food, great architecture, and we want you to work and live here. And that’s what happened.

Preckwinkle, and I promise you this, will send the exact opposite message if she wins. She doesn’t understand what makes Chicago great. But I’ll give you a hint—it’s not keeping schools with 5 kids in them open just so that the teachers can keep drawing a salary.

She also flip flopped on the Stroger tax increase. And did she really eliminate County jobs?

[moorhosj]

Originally Posted by jtown,man

I love how everyone here is ignoring that Wilson, the most conservative person running, won some of the blackest areas of town and some of the poorest.

Maybe poor black people actually like anti-crime/pro-growth ideas?

Can you refresh us on the anti-crime/pro-growth ideas that Wilson presented?

Let's not forget that Wilson literally hands out $100 bills to people. I would think that plays well in some of the poorest areas of town where, as you mention, he performed well.

[jtown,man]

Originally Posted by moorhosj

Can you refresh us on the anti-crime/pro-growth ideas that Wilson presented?

Let's not forget that Wilson literally hands out $100 bills to people. I would think that plays well in some of the poorest areas of town where, as you mention, he performed well.

I could see the issue there, but apparently hes been doing this forever.

And look at his website vs the two ladies who are going to be in the runoff. The tone alone is incredibly different.

[pip]

I knew nothing about Lightfooot but the more today I read the more I like her.

[SIGSEGV]

Originally Posted by Kenmore

Lol^

Conservatives are hilarious

Here is Willie Wilson's conservative platform:

----10 POINT PLAN----

Create Safe Neighborhoods:
• End Carjackings
• Re-open Community Mental Health Centers
No More Property Tax Increases:
• Property Tax Freeze
Re-open Closed Schools:
• Elected School Board
Legalize Recreational Marijuana:
• Tax It
• Make it Safe
Economic Development:
• Create Small Businesses, Community Based Grants
• Fairness in Contracts and Jobs
• End Homelessness
End Political Corruption:
• Honest Government
• Progressive City Council
Support Sanctuary Cities
End Police Brutality:
• No More Laquan McDonald Cover Ups
Abolish Red Light Cameras
• Seniors Ride CTA Free
New Revenue Generators:
• Citizen Owned Casino +$1B (est.)
• Marijuana Tax +$1B (est)
• Re-open Meigs Field +$500M

[jtown,man]

Originally Posted by Kenmore

Lol^

Conservatives are hilarious

That seems to be the go-to response, just LOL @ conservatives instead of actually say something of substance.

[jtown,man]

Originally Posted by SIGSEGV

Here is Willie Wilson's conservative platform:

Compare that to the other peoples websites...

In rural Arkansas he would be a socialist. But in Chicago, he was arguably the most conservative. Hence he was the most conservative candidate and poor blacks seem to like his message.

And he was endorsed by the Cook county GOP?

[Vlajos]

Originally Posted by jtown,man

Compare that to the other peoples websites...

In rural Arkansas he would be a socialist. But in Chicago, he was arguably the most conservative. Hence he was the most conservative candidate and poor blacks seem to like his message.

And he was endorsed by the Cook county GOP?

He voted for Trump and Rauner.

[10023]

I can’t see how either of them won’t be a big step back for Chicago, but Preckwinkle would obviously be a disaster. Anyone who thinks rent control in Chicago is necessary or a good idea is living in a fantasy land, and she’s completely owned by the public employee unions.

[10023]

Originally Posted by Via Chicago

you guys would have said that about literally anyone that wasn't economically literate and understood Chicago’s strategic advantages

Lightfoot is competent, intelligent, and will make a fine mayor

FIFY

It is going to be a very bad thing for Chicago if it gets a mayor who thinks that rich people moving in and poor people moving away is a bad thing. An AOC type who would chase away Amazon because it might make surrounding neighborhoods more desirable is not what Chicago needs.

[Vlajos]

Originally Posted by 10023

FIFY

It is going to be a very bad thing for Chicago if it gets a mayor who thinks that rich people moving in and poor people moving away is a bad thing. An AOC type who would chase away Amazon because it might make surrounding neighborhoods more desirable is not what Chicago needs.

Absolutely. I don't think either are an AOC type, but certianly lean that way. If Prekwinkle is really in favor of rent control she is worse than I thought. That combined with the public employee unions backing will be a disaster for Chicago. The city's pension payment will be double in the next few years and keep increasing. We have to be extremely tough with the unions, like low to no raises and increase their contribution to the cost of healthcare. If your primary support is from unions that's not going to happen.

Lightfoot appears to not support rent control and is not beholden to the unions. She has no experience though in anything pertinent to running the City. And NO financial background.

I think we have a one termer either way as a recession will likely hit in the next few years and the city's finances will be on life support.