NEW YORK | 3 Hudson Blvd (The Girasole) | 987 FT | 56 FLOORS | ON HOLD - Page 47

NYguy · #**921** Posted **Jan 21, 2020, 2:41 AM**

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Originally Posted by Visionist

I much prefer that to the current design. Much sleeker and more futuristic. Even better if it were a couple hundred feet or more higher.

The sleekness of that design is it's appeal, for sure. Too many fat boys in the Hudson Yards. But that what it was planned for.

patriotizzy · #**922** Posted **Jan 21, 2020, 4:15 PM**

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Originally Posted by Visionist

I much prefer that to the current design. Much sleeker and more futuristic. Even better if it were a couple hundred feet or more higher.

A literal glass box is futuristic?

Fuck me right?

NYguy · #**923** Posted **Jan 21, 2020, 4:25 PM**

Imagining the day when we can get this tower rising in this view....

Zerton · #**924** Posted **Jan 21, 2020, 5:36 PM**

North of Hudson Yards will be known as "The Land of the Tall Boxes".

aquablue · #**925** Posted **Jan 22, 2020, 2:19 AM**

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Originally Posted by Zerton

North of Hudson Yards will be known as "The Land of the Tall Boxes".

Agree,Those big boxes are just austere and depressing lined up in a row like that. So disappointing!! Aloof and cold, this corporate alley is just not a great place.

Zerton · #**926** Posted **Jan 22, 2020, 5:34 PM**

I wish they'd put ground floor retail all around the bases of these towers. But they're not.

dropdeaded209 · #**927** Posted **Jan 22, 2020, 5:42 PM**

it's like the new 6th avenue

NYguy · #**928** Posted **Jan 22, 2020, 7:27 PM**

^ It’s the new Park Ave, complete with a Foster designed tower. He needs to get one more there to make it a thing.

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Originally Posted by Zerton

I wish they'd put ground floor retail all around the bases of these towers. But they're not.

The gf retail was put in the zoning. The Spiral had to get approval not that long ago for slightly less retail, but it will be there.

citybooster · #**929** Posted **Jan 22, 2020, 10:29 PM**

NYGuy, do you have any idea how much retail overall within those towers? And what do you mean by get one more tower there?

NYguy · #**930** Posted **Jan 22, 2020, 10:50 PM**

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Originally Posted by citybooster

NYGuy, do you have any idea how much retail overall within those towers? And what do you mean by get one more tower there?

I’ll have to go back and look at the specifics for how much retail, but it’s pretty much that way for most of Manhattan, particularly with office towers on main avenues.

Here’s how it’s broken down on this site, with design controls calling for retail...

Here’s an example of how the retail shapes up around the Spiral (shaded areas).

Zerton · #**931** Posted **Jan 22, 2020, 11:23 PM**

^ Thanks. That's much better than I thought it would be.

NYguy · #**932** Posted **Jan 23, 2020, 3:51 AM**

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Originally Posted by Zerton

^ Thanks. That's much better than I thought it would be.

Here's just a little bit more on that, if the zoning-speak doesn't have your head spinning...

Visionist · #**933** Posted **Jan 23, 2020, 6:57 PM**

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Originally Posted by patriotizzy

A literal glass box is futuristic?

Fuck me right?

It's the sleekness of being a clean, uniform glass box without any visible columns or vents for mechanical floors that makes it look futuristic. 4 WTC achieves something similar.

Thanks for your offer but no thanks

chris08876 · #**934** Posted **Jan 23, 2020, 10:26 PM**

NY zoning and city DOB codes need to be changed. Also, the sky plane requirements need to go. Results in some ugly street/tower interfaces.

Its just a convoluted maze to navigate much of which relies on pre-1970s rubbish.

NYguy · #**935** Posted **Jan 24, 2020, 3:45 AM**

Peek into the pit of 3 Hudson (left) and site prep on Related's residential tower (right)...

https://www.instagram.com/p/B7r1-jgFfxr/

aquablue · #**936** Posted **Jan 24, 2020, 7:31 AM**

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Originally Posted by chris08876

NY zoning and city DOB codes need to be changed. Also, the sky plane requirements need to go. Results in some ugly street/tower interfaces.

Its just a convoluted maze to navigate much of which relies on pre-1970s rubbish.

They will still find away to build some boring ass box anyway, zoning changes or not. That's the design philosophy at the top. Zoning changes will do little if the dinosaur developers don't change their thinking on design - efficiency first, design last.

chris08876 · #**937** Posted **Feb 10, 2020, 4:43 AM**

Credit: bleak

kingsdl76 · #**938** Posted **Feb 10, 2020, 5:20 AM**

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Originally Posted by chris08876

NY zoning and city DOB codes need to be changed. Also, the sky plane requirements need to go. Results in some ugly street/tower interfaces.

Its just a convoluted maze to navigate much of which relies on pre-1970s rubbish.

I have to agree... Although I find the Hudson Yards development to be exciting for city, and you can't deny it's impressive scale, it's architecturally uninspired... They could've designed some really impressive buildings here, but they didn't....

mrnyc · #**939** Posted **Feb 10, 2020, 5:33 PM**

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Originally Posted by aquablue

Agree,Those big boxes are just austere and depressing lined up in a row like that. So disappointing!! Aloof and cold, this corporate alley is just not a great place.

you might think, but actually, in reality when you are there on the new hudson blvd, with all the construction going on, and all the shoppers and tourists and shed, vessel, highline park visitors, workers, commuters and javits conventioners, its anything but aloof and cold. its already full of bustling humanity just like anywhere else in the area. and that will be much more so with the western yards residential and plaza additions.

NYguy · #**940** Posted **Feb 19, 2020, 10:15 PM**

http://www.moinian.com/3hudsonboulevard/

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A partnership between Boston Properties and The Moinian Group, 3 Hudson Boulevard will be a free-standing, 1.9-million-square-foot glass-and-steel
office tower located north of 34th Street, at the epicenter of the Far West Side's continuing development.

Envisioned by FXCollaborative, 3HB is set to rise as an icon of design, flexibility, and sustainability in the 21st Century. Anchoring the elegant, tree-lined
Hudson Boulevard Park, the glass and steel, Class A office tower will offer tenants and their employees a superior experience, with unobstructed 360-degree
city views, and nearly an acre of parkland with direct 7 line subway access at the front door.