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Old Posted Nov 24, 2008, 1:03 PM
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http://www.globest.com/news/1294_129.../175391-1.html

Westside Medical Mart Tower Advances



By Cody Lyon
November 23, 2008

NEW YORK CITY-Despite a daily dish of sour news that paint the picture of a city in economic contraction, a group of developers say excavation had begun and marketing is underway, for a new 60-floor, glass and steel tower that will rise over-looking the Jacob Javitts Center. The 1.5-million-square-foot complex--scheduled to be complete by 2013--will bring an international multi-purpose trade center for medical professionals and vendors to Manhattan’s far west side.

Called, 'World Product Centre', the 977-foot tower, being built at 555 W. 33rd St., is a joint effort between the Greater New York Hospital Association and Extell Development Corp. Plans say it will serve an array of commercial and educational needs for healthcare suppliers and providers within that $336-billion dollar industry.

"You’re going to have 600 different companies dedicated to healthcare who now have a physical presence in New York City," Lee Perlman, president of GNYHA Ventures, tells GlobeSt.com.

The new ‘side-corp’ building on the site of the former CopaCabana nightclub will be minimum LEED-certified and in addition to serving as a trade mart, will contain two floors dedicated as a consumer health pavilion, where educational companies or organizations can interact with the public.

Interestingly, spokespeople say what has healthcare industry players most excited is that the complex will offer an environment that encourages transparency for that industry’s business transactions--a craft that has come under increasing scrutiny over the past few years, resulting in congressional hearings and stiff penalties. The project, originally set to be built at the World Trade Center site downtown, has been in planning stages for years.

According to WPC spokesperson Michael Resnick, the idea’s genesis was the result of the personal experiences of Israel Green, WPC visionary and president. Resnick says that around ten years ago, Green’s wife was diagnosed with terminal cancer. "He was told she had six months to live," says Resnick.

Green used his resources to travel the world and seek help for his wife’s condition. But, at some point, just days before what Resnick called a serious operation, the surgeon revealed surprising news to Green. "The surgeon came in and told him that his wife in fact, did not have cancer," says Resnick.

According to Resnick’s accounts, there had been plenty of evidence all along showing that Green’s wife was cancer free. But, in the end, Green left the experience feeling that the health care system, from the perspectives of doctors, providers, innovation providers and procedures was seriously disconnected.

That experience led Green to further develop his idea. Using his resources, he sought to create an environment or facility where doctors and manufacturers of medical devices and other technologies might come together to facilitate commerce, transfer knowledge and share education.

Then, Green discovered that the Greater New York Hospital Association had also been working on a very similar idea for some sort of medical merchandise mart. "We then wanted to form a single project," says Lee Perlman, president of the GNYHA of his pooling of ideas with Green.

Perlman describes the massive building as "a complex Disneyland and World’s Fair for healthcare innovation and education" where "no two days are ever the same, an international destination for the medical community."

Perlman says, while the complex will serve as a trade mart for medical service companies from around the world to showcase new products, "it will also be a place to demonstrate new services, a center where innovations are announced and, being that this is New York, a place where financial markets can intersect with some of the largest companies they serve."

"We have so many companies in health care that are publicly traded but virtually none of them have offices in New York City," he says. "One of my driving forces is that we create a place in New York where they can come and be connected to the financial services industry.”

World Product Centre’s Resnick agrees saying that "we want to create a center that highlights the biggest industry in the world, the industry that is most important, since when you think about it, the most important thing in the world is health," says Resnick.

Still, the health of New York City’s economy does not bode well for any project seeking to reach into the skies of Manhattan these days. This is not discouraging Perlman or Resnick as they intend to continue seeking to fill their building--with Consorta, Inc., leading those efforts.

"It’s fascinating to me that so much of the media attention about our project is being placed on the financing aspect," says Resnick.
Meanwhile, Perlman stresses the uniqueness of the project, noting that the healthcare industry is a growth sector.

The group is getting customers to commit to long -term leases, then going to banks and financial service groups and saying, "listen, we have 200 great companies, they’re all credit worthy and they are all going to pay rent," said Perlman.

"It is a growth sector, and it will continue to grow," says Perlman. "We want it to grow in New York City."
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Old Posted Nov 24, 2008, 1:04 PM
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I'm fascinated by the subway aspect to these developments, which is really where any work at the site is, so I'll post these again...

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One of the nice things about this tower, and most of the developments in the area, is the generous plaza that will front it.
The subway entrance adds a nice touch, though the station itself will be deeper than normal for various reasons.

Shown here, the WPC plan:




Compared with some early subway planning for the site, gives an idea of the depth:







Early planning also shows the plaza on what would become the WPC (and the Girasole in the background)









Compared to the final WPC version:




View from the upper offices:


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http://www.observer.com/2008/real-es...ting-cavernous

West Side Extension of No. 7 Line Getting Cavernous



by Eliot Brown
November 24, 2008

Construction, it seems, is indeed under way for the extension of the No. 7 line, the cornerstone of the Bloomberg administration’s planned development of the far West Side.

The MTA’s capital construction page shows an update for November with pictures from below, where the agency is hollowing out the cavern for the station and making way for the eventual launch of a tunnel-boring machine, which will slowly dig its way along the 1.5-mile route.

The project, budgeted at $2.1 billion, would extend the line from Times Square to the base of the Javits Center on 34th Street, adjacent to the West Side rail yards. The Bloomberg administration has been the driving force behind the extension, which it says will help spawn tens of millions of square feet of West Side development.

The cash-strapped MTA had no desire to pay for the project, so the city is footing the entire bill, up to the $2.1 billion. Should costs exceed the budget (which many onlookers assume they will, given rising costs everywhere), the city and the MTA have yet to negotiate an agreement on who would cover them.
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Building patterns similar to Hearst Tower. I think it looks pretty good!
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wow. i hope that this one is also environmentally friendly like the BofA one. anyone have info on that?
     
     
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Of note here...

http://ny.therealdeal.com/articles/d...son-yards-park

Demo contracts near for Hudson Yards park



545 West 34th Street


By Adam Pincus
12/08/08


The city is moving forward with demolition to clear the way for a new four-acre park and boulevard as well as the entrance for the new terminal station for the No. 7 train for the massive Hudson Yards redevelopment project on Manhattan's West Side.

The city is expected to award its first contracts this week to raze two buildings on two large parcels spanning from 34th to 36th streets, and 10th to 11th avenues, which will become part of the new Hudson Boulevard and park.

And a block to the south, the city is seeking bids that are due Friday for the demolition of the former FedEx World Service Center building at 528-556 West 34th Street, to make way for the entrance to the No. 7 train on 33rd Street.

The buildings will be brought down in what many fear will be the worst economic recession in decades, leading critics to wonder who is going to build and occupy the massive skyscrapers envisioned for the Hudson Yards district or whether the structures will come down but nothing will rise in their places, a waste of functional buildings.

Hudson Boulevard and the park comprise a mid-block open space that is planned to run from 33rd to 39th streets between 10th and 11th avenues, and be lined with large office and residential towers. The first phase of the park and boulevard, from 33rd to 36th streets, is slated to be completed in 2013. A design team is expected to be named in the next several weeks, city officials said.

The city-led Hudson Yards Development Corporation is overseeing the long-term project to redevelop the West Side.

The two large parcels that will make up the park and boulevard are now mostly occupied by buildings but also include vacant land.

The three buildings that are coming down are a six-story, red brick residential building at 545 West 34th Street, and a seven-story commercial building at 524-542 West 36th Street, both between 10th and 11th avenues, in addition to the FedEx building.

Joe Restuccia, executive director of the West Side advocacy group Clinton Housing Development Company, which helped tenants from 545 West 34th Street find new apartments, said the weak private development market would likely assure that the land remained empty for years.

"Do you believe there is a speculative office building that will be built on the West Side?" he said. "My real concern is the land will be vacant for quite some time and there won't be any improvement in the area."

David Farber, vice president and general counsel at the Hudson Yards Development Corporation, wrote in an email: "The park and boulevard remain on schedule to be completed in 2013, and therefore we must go ahead with that demolition work."

Five demolition bids have been received for the two park and boulevard parcels, which are expected to cost approximately $6 million to $8.5 million each, said a spokesperson for the city's Department of Housing Preservation and Development, which is handling the demolition contracts.

The bids were closed October 24 and the city had 45 days to select a contractor, the HPD spokesperson said. The city may choose a contractor after the 45-day period, but the winning company is no longer bound by its bid.
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How did this end up 1011ft, did they add a 40 foot pole to the top?
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Please tell me more predictions. You predicted 9/11 in 1991? You predicted the 2008 credit meltdown in 1998?
A friendly little update.

Downtown Express:

50 West delay
Another casualty of the free-falling economy is 50 West St., the condo tower Time Equities hopes to build in Greenwich St. South.

Francis Greenburger, C.E.O. of Time Equities, told Crain’s New York Business last month that the firm is slowing work on 50 West’s foundation, because he doesn’t have a construction loan to build the 65-story tower.

“Our main bank group told us they can’t do it now,” Greenburger told Crain’s. “They advised us to come back to them in the spring.”

UnderCover called Greenburger’s spokesperson for more information, but she would not confirm anything and would not give a new completion date for the tower. The building was supposed to rise above ground next summer and open in 2011.

The luxury tower was not one of the community board’s favorite projects, but that doesn’t mean board members are happy to see it stalled.

“The last thing this community needs is another uncompleted project…or another hole in the ground,” said Catherine McVay Hughes of Community Board 1. “Hopefully the financing will come through and what was promised can be realized.”

New York Observer:

Vornado Exec: 125th Street MLB Project ‘Shut Down’

Another new development project canceled.

Speaking at an investor conference yesterday, Vornado CFO Joseph Macnow gave word that the company’s troubled plans for Harlem Park, an office tower on 125th Street, have been officially scuttled.

“We’ve shut down a couple of development projects,” Mr. Macnow said.

“We were going to build the first office building in Harlem in 50 years on 125th Street and Park Avenue. We’ve shut that project down. The economics are not warranted today to do that job.”

Vornado had once wanted to build a 630,000-square-foot office building as a home for a Major League Baseball television network. The developers said they had tentative leases on only about one-third of the space, and thus Vornado couldn’t find financing to build the tower.

In preparation for the tower, Vornado had even gone to the community board and negotiated a concession package in order to gain an exemption from a planned rezoning that would have limited the height.

http://www.observer.com/2008/real-es...ject-shut-down

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A friendly little update.

Downtown Express:

50 West delay
Another casualty of the free-falling economy is 50 West St., the condo tower Time Equities hopes to build in Greenwich St. South.
That's old news (check the thread)

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Vornado Exec: 125th Street MLB Project ‘Shut Down’

Speaking at an investor conference yesterday, Vornado CFO Joseph Macnow gave word that the company’s troubled plans for Harlem Park, an office tower on 125th Street, have been officially scuttled.
As is that, though they just made it official. Doesn't have any relevance here though.
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How did this end up 1011ft, did they add a 40 foot pole to the top?
1,011 ft is just the height to the top of the parapet, or what will essentially be the roofline.

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1,011 ft is just the height to the top of the parapet, or what will essentially be the roofline.
even better, that makes this a real supertall without even cheating. I only like to count bulky parts of the building into the height, not spires.
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Then don't count the spires. Buildings don't cheat. It's these silly skyscraper sites (and "authorities") that count them into the height.

If one chooses to not count them, then don't. No one is forcing you to.
     
     
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Then don't count the spires. Buildings don't cheat. It's these silly skyscraper sites (and "authorities") that count them into the height.

If one chooses to not count them, then don't. No one is forcing you to.
Right. A buildings height only matters in official rankings anyway. That being said, we do know that spires count officially. Those are just the rules. For example, you don't have to call red, "red". You could call it blue....
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This building looks like it might get the nod soon. Thank god for it, now I will have something to keep my attention in these forums for the next couple of years. God knows the WTC site will take another 20 years just to finish the foundations.
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This building looks like it might get the nod soon.
What do you mean, "get the nod soon"? The building is already approved.
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Work on the "other" medical mart...
http://www.cleveland.com/news/plaind...400.xml&coll=2

Cuyahoga County grants 1-month extension on medical mart site selection

January 01, 2009
Joe Guillen, Plain Dealer Reporter


One month after setting a Jan. 15 deadline for choosing a site for a proposed medical mart, Cuyahoga County commissioners have granted a one-month extension.

Commissioner Peter Lawson Jones said Wednesday that the county granted the extension at the request of Merchandise Mart Properties Inc., the Chicago company analyzing potential sites.

Commissioners already face criticism for the slow pace on the $1 billion project, which includes an accompanying convention center and is expected to capitalize on the region's strong health care industry.

Cleveland Clinic Chief Executive Toby Cosgrove and an executive at Forest City Enterprises, which owns property being considered for the mart, have urged county officials to speed up the selection process.

They fear a New York developer planning a larger showroom in Manhattan for medical companies will open first and possibly hurt the Cleveland project's chances of success.


The county has been waiting months for Merchandise Mart Properties, which will own and operate the mart, to study two downtown Cleveland sites: Tower City and the current Cleveland Convention Center.

Jones said the latest delay is not the commissioners' fault.

"We are all anxious in Northeast Ohio to see something done," Jones said. "But this is a very complex deal. There shouldn't be any concern about MMPI's commitment to this simply because they're devoting an extra month to getting it right."

A representative for MMPI could not be reached Wednesday for comment.

Cuyahoga County Republican Party Chairman Rob Frost said it's time the three Democratic commissioners show more leadership, rather than stand by and wait for MMPI to produce its report.

"The utter lack of leadership on the part of the county on this is breathtaking," Frost said Wednesday. "It appears the only thing they were able to accomplish is increasing the taxes and starting to collect the revenue."

County taxpayers are financing construction of the project through a quarter-cent sales tax increase that commissioners approved in 2007. The tax, which will be in place for 20 years, generated $42 million in its first full year.

Over the 20 years, the tax could raise $1 billion. The county intends to borrow money for the project and use the tax to pay off the debt.
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What do you mean, "get the nod soon"? The building is already approved.
I meant getting built soon, not being approved by various agencies. The 7-line extension will obviously be the first major milestone in developing the area.
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I meant getting built soon, not being approved by various agencies. The 7-line extension will obviously be the first major milestone in developing the area.
I don't know what your definition of soon is, but it most certainly won't start construction this year.
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http://ny.therealdeal.com/articles/extell-plows-ahead

Extell plows ahead
Will Gary Barnett be the last man standing in New York real estate?




By David Jones
January 2009


Three years ago, an up-and-coming real estate firm called Extell Development Company was denied the right to develop the controversial Atlantic Yards site, despite outbidding rival Forest City Ratner by $100 million.

Now, the world has completely changed for both companies, with fortunes rising for one and falling for the other. The credit crisis has halted the $6 billion Atlantic Yards project in Brooklyn for Forest City Ratner, while Extell has emerged as the most active developer in the rehabilitation of Manhattan's West Side.

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Apparently betting that the proposed Hudson Yards development on the far West Side remains viable, Extell has also announced plans for a 60-story office tower called the World Product Centre, which would operate as a merchandise mart for the medical industry. Estimates of the tower's cost range from $500 million to $1 billion; however, financing for this project has not been announced.

Extell is working with the Greater New York Hospital Association and an investor named Israel Green on the former Copacabana site at 11th Avenue and 33rd Street, which is scheduled for completion by 2013.

Officials said they plan to find at least two anchor tenants to commit to 10-year leases at the site, but it remains unclear whether the development has any chance of reaching fruition, or if this is just another political stake being driven into the ground with the intention of keeping the Hudson Yards plan viable.

Schwartz, who said the economic downturn is just beginning and believes that recovery is several years away, argues that this is "a really good time" to be positioning properties for development for the next up cycle. "We've been encouraging a number of our clients to do exactly that," Schwartz said.
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