HomeDiagramsDatabaseMapsForum
     

Go Back   SkyscraperPage Forum > Regional Sections > Canada

About The Ads  This week the ad company used in the forum will be monitoring activity and doing some tests to identify any problems which users may be experiencing. If at any time this week you get pop-ups, redirects, etc. as a result of ads please let us know by sending an email to forum@skyscraperpage.com or post in the ads complaint thread. Thank you for your participation.


View Poll Results: Who did you vote for?
Liberal Party 75 38.66%
Conservative Party 47 24.23%
New Democratic Party 37 19.07%
People's Party 11 5.67%
Bloc Québécois 6 3.09%
Green Party 13 6.70%
Other 5 2.58%
Voters: 194. You may not vote on this poll

Closed Thread

 
Thread Tools Display Modes
     
     
  #321  
Old Posted Oct 22, 2019, 4:36 AM
WarrenC12 WarrenC12 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: East OV!
Posts: 9,971
Quote:
Originally Posted by misher View Post
It’s not just the Alberta, we all want to make money and just do our jobs and it feels like the government is stopping us.
This is all in your head.
     
     
  #322  
Old Posted Oct 22, 2019, 4:37 AM
lio45 lio45 is online now
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Colebrook, NH (as well as QC & FL)
Posts: 25,485
JWR has a healthy lead now. When's the last time an independent got elected? I don't recall it ever (during my adult lifetime at least).
     
     
  #323  
Old Posted Oct 22, 2019, 4:38 AM
Acajack's Avatar
Acajack Acajack is online now
Jos Connaissant
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Vieux Canada
Posts: 41,335
#wexit now trending
__________________
Got you thinking
     
     
  #324  
Old Posted Oct 22, 2019, 4:38 AM
Corndogger Corndogger is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Calgary
Posts: 4,929
Quote:
Originally Posted by milomilo View Post
You've already called me a 'plant', whatever that means, so you've gone down the rabbithole of conspiracy theory. There's no going back from that, now all you'll see everything as a plot against Alberta. But Alberta is not as important as you think it is, it is being treated more than fairly.
If you don't know what a plant is then how can you call it a conspiracy theory? If you're not a plant then you must be totally blind to think that the policies the Liberals have passed into legislation aren't meant to hurt/destroy Alberta.
     
     
  #325  
Old Posted Oct 22, 2019, 4:38 AM
Acajack's Avatar
Acajack Acajack is online now
Jos Connaissant
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Vieux Canada
Posts: 41,335
Quote:
Originally Posted by lio45 View Post
JWR has a healthy lead now. When's the last time an independent got elected? I don't recall it ever (during my adult lifetime at least).
André Arthur ?
__________________
Got you thinking
     
     
  #326  
Old Posted Oct 22, 2019, 4:38 AM
Pinus Pinus is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 1,285
Quote:
Originally Posted by Acajack View Post
#wexit now trending
Boo hoo. Let them cry.
__________________
Canada's biggest downfall: our proximity and physical attachment to 'Murca.
     
     
  #327  
Old Posted Oct 22, 2019, 4:40 AM
Corndogger Corndogger is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Calgary
Posts: 4,929
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pinus View Post
Why is it only a "strong AB" that means a strong Canada? Doesn't having 10 strong provinces and 3 strong territories mean a strong Canada instead of thinking one province is our saving grace?

Why is it always about Alberta?
Alberta wants the entire nation to be strong but the Liberal Party and the people who support them think that it's better to cripple Alberta.
     
     
  #328  
Old Posted Oct 22, 2019, 4:41 AM
Djeffery Djeffery is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: London
Posts: 804
Quote:
Originally Posted by VANRIDERFAN View Post
I think so. I think they waited until polls closed in MB to make it look like the west mattered.
Most of Quebec, Ontario, Manitoba, Sask, and Alberta closed at the same time, so you can't really pin it to one province. CBC called a Liberal government shortly after BC polls closed and a minority maybe 15 minutes later.
     
     
  #329  
Old Posted Oct 22, 2019, 4:42 AM
Corndogger Corndogger is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Calgary
Posts: 4,929
Quote:
Originally Posted by lio45 View Post
You guys are both right because it all hinges on how exactly you define "left to the market".

If fully "left to the market" (i.e. no environmental reviews whatsoever), then yeah, it gets built (you're right).

If "left to the market" in the typical regulatory framework we can expect, then it doesn't get built (milomilo's right).
Under the regulatory framework in place before Justin changed the rules it would have been built and still would have been under the crazy new rules. TMX is 1000% needed.
     
     
  #330  
Old Posted Oct 22, 2019, 4:42 AM
LakeLocker LakeLocker is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: London ON
Posts: 257
Quote:
Originally Posted by milomilo View Post
There are plenty of traditional 'conservative' values that can appeal to urban voters, we all generally want the same results after all. But the Canadian Conservative parties choose to focus on the wrong issues and have chosen the wrong positions on a few important things. It's a choice, they just need to change their preferences.
The shocking lack of the Jordan Peterson vibe was missing.

He literally converted me and a whole lot of other millennials to conservatism and is wildly famous. Last I checked he's the only regular conservative guest on the Joe Rogan Experience. Guy checks all the boxes, open minded, religious, from rural alberta, a professor of pysc living in downtown Toronto, and obsessed with soviet union art.
     
     
  #331  
Old Posted Oct 22, 2019, 4:42 AM
flar's Avatar
flar flar is offline
..........
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Southwestern Ontario
Posts: 12,743
Liberals only need 14 votes to get 170, pretty strong minority. Some combination of all three of the Cons-NDP-Bloc needed to defeat the Libs.

Probably the worst possible outcome for the Conservatives.



Although the Cons could have more votes than the Libs, it's still a strong progressive mandate for Canada, as the PPC was vehemently repudiated and the Cons still have less than 35% of the vote.
__________________
RECENT PHOTOS:
TORONTOSAN FRANCISCO ROCHESTER, NYHAMILTONGODERICH, ON WHEATLEY, ONCOBOURG, ONLAS VEGASLOS ANGELES
     
     
  #332  
Old Posted Oct 22, 2019, 4:43 AM
Denscity Denscity is offline
Suburbs Suck
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Castlegar BC
Posts: 7,064
Quote:
Originally Posted by WarrenC12 View Post
BC sending MPs from all 4 parties (sorry Bloc) and possibly independent. Covering all the bases...
Ya total representation from all. Exact opposite of the next door neighbours.
__________________
Daily 1 hour flights from YCG to YVR & YYC on ACX
British Columbia is named after the Columbia River, a 4 minute walk from my house
Exactly halfway between Vancouver and Calgary
castlegar.ca
     
     
  #333  
Old Posted Oct 22, 2019, 4:43 AM
lio45 lio45 is online now
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Colebrook, NH (as well as QC & FL)
Posts: 25,485
Quote:
Originally Posted by Acajack View Post
André Arthur ?
André Arthur, Chuck Cadman. My previous comment is to be taken literally ("I don't recall it (because it's nearly 1 am and my brain's telling me to go to bed)", not "it didn't happen".)
     
     
  #334  
Old Posted Oct 22, 2019, 4:44 AM
manny_santos's Avatar
manny_santos manny_santos is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Burnaby
Posts: 3,290
Quote:
Originally Posted by Acajack View Post
André Arthur ?
I believe you’re correct. Before him was Chuck Cadman, and before that...John Nunziata?
__________________
Help control the pet population, have your pets spayed or neutered.
     
     
  #335  
Old Posted Oct 22, 2019, 4:45 AM
milomilo milomilo is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Calgary
Posts: 5,414
Quote:
Originally Posted by Corndogger View Post
If you don't know what a plant is then how can you call it a conspiracy theory? If you're not a plant then you must be totally blind to think that the policies the Liberals have passed into legislation aren't meant to hurt/destroy Alberta.
Alright, humour me. What did you mean when you said I was a plant? What am I, a foreign agent?

I can assure you I'm not, for what it's worth, I just like living here
and want what is best for this province in the long run, which does not mean extracting infinite amounts of oil.
     
     
  #336  
Old Posted Oct 22, 2019, 4:45 AM
Corndogger Corndogger is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Calgary
Posts: 4,929
Quote:
Originally Posted by lio45 View Post
He's not "old stock" enough?
He's a Brit who's come to Alberta to suck as much money out of the place as he can while simultaneously trying to destroy it before he moves on. As far as I'm concerned he's the worst kind of immigrant.
     
     
  #337  
Old Posted Oct 22, 2019, 4:45 AM
Pinus Pinus is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 1,285
Quote:
Originally Posted by Corndogger View Post
Alberta wants the entire nation to be strong but the Liberal Party and the people who support them think that it's better to cripple Alberta.
Interesting, because that is not the prevailing sentiment I recieved from Albertans when I lived there for 12 years. It was always about how they were the best in the country (in their own eyes), how Canada couldn't survive without them and how Eastern Canada was the Devil incarnate. I never had the sense of Albertans really caring about the rest of the country all that much.
__________________
Canada's biggest downfall: our proximity and physical attachment to 'Murca.
     
     
  #338  
Old Posted Oct 22, 2019, 4:45 AM
Acajack's Avatar
Acajack Acajack is online now
Jos Connaissant
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Vieux Canada
Posts: 41,335
Quote:
Originally Posted by Corndogger View Post
Maybe one day people like you will realize that Albertan's are the ones who know how to properly run a country. Unfortunately, it'll be too late by the time that happens.
Oh my. Allow me to be skeptical when you're dogmatic to the point where you'd rather jeopardize provincial finances and services than even have a tiny 1% provincial sales tax.

And wanna tell us about the Heritage Fund? Where did all the money go?
__________________
Got you thinking
     
     
  #339  
Old Posted Oct 22, 2019, 4:46 AM
lio45 lio45 is online now
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Colebrook, NH (as well as QC & FL)
Posts: 25,485
Quote:
Originally Posted by Corndogger View Post
Under the regulatory framework in place before Justin changed the rules it would have been built and still would have been under the crazy new rules. TMX is 1000% needed.
Yeah but the correct regulatory framework to consider here is the actual/latest one, not the previous/outdated one, therefore milomilo is correct. (By early 1950s rules I'm sure we'd have built TMX just as easily as we did TM-not-X, but that statement doesn't mean much.)
     
     
  #340  
Old Posted Oct 22, 2019, 4:48 AM
lio45 lio45 is online now
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Colebrook, NH (as well as QC & FL)
Posts: 25,485
Quote:
Originally Posted by milomilo View Post
Alright, humour me. What did you mean when you said I was a plant?
You could actually be a (potted) plant and you'd still win federal elections in a landslide, in Battle River and most other ridings of the area.
     
     
This discussion thread continues

Use the page links to the lower-right to go to the next page for additional posts
 
 
Closed Thread

Go Back   SkyscraperPage Forum > Regional Sections > Canada
Forum Jump


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 1:06 PM.

     

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.