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Old Posted Oct 7, 2019, 2:06 PM
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Syndicated mortgages strike another Winnipeg project.

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Old Posted Oct 7, 2019, 2:19 PM
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These were the guys trying to get a demolition permit with a splashy rendering from a Toronto developer for the fortune block. They ended up outbidding the developers of the pumphouse and other exchange projects for the portage east building....a lesson to be learned.


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Old Posted Oct 7, 2019, 2:34 PM
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Old Posted Oct 7, 2019, 3:36 PM
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I skimmed this decision on the initial motion at the time that it came out and did not realize the Hyatt Place referred to was this Hyatt Place:

https://www.canlii.org/en/on/onlst/d...onlsth127.html

The subsequent decision on the motion:

https://lawsocietytribunal.ca/OrderA...018-07-09).pdf
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Old Posted Oct 8, 2019, 7:20 PM
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I really don't get why Winnipegers are so opposed to opening P&M. As an outsider, it's so perplexing. I just can't wrap my head around it. Shibuya Crossing: vibrant, iconic. TIMES F#&$¥&* SQUARE!!!! Seriously! Are you guys ok? Your "iconic" corner is completely dead, but you have people promising to invest millions if you open it... and you vote NO???? How... why?
If you look at a map of Winnipeg, you'll see that P&M is like a bike wheel hub with spokes coming in from all directions. Many Winnipeggers assume traffic tie-ups will be immense at this hub if traffic light timing has to be changed to give pedestrians enough time to cross the intersection. Whether if this fear is founded or not has been up for debate. Then there are all those Winnipeggers that simply think we shouldn't spend money on anything nice. Add all that up and that's what brought us the NO verdict. After the NO vote, mayor Bowman promised that P&M underground and it's entrances would still get overhauled and made more inviting. It's been crickets since that promise. I hope the sums it all up in a nutshell.
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Old Posted Oct 8, 2019, 7:24 PM
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At risk of opening up yet another debate. most drivers being during the 1 hour morning and afternoon rushes. The rest of the time, traffic is not bad. Even during the rush, it's not really that bad. I can get through there in one light cycle every time I go. That's not even bad traffic, just traffic.

Regardless, the whole thing was bungled by the mayor. Instead of putting it to a vote chock full of suburbanites, it should've gone through the wringer at city hall and gone through normal public consultations. That way we could have all the info, and the City could still do whatever the see fit.
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Old Posted Oct 8, 2019, 7:35 PM
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After the NO vote, mayor Bowman promised that P&M underground and it's entrances would still get overhauled and made more inviting. It's been crickets since that promise. I hope the sums it all up in a nutshell.
Just putting up clear signage identifying the entry points to the underground concourse would be a massive improvement. And I'm not talking about the measly "W" wayfinding stickers in the windows, I mean actual clearly-worded, large light-up signs designed to catch your attention.

Then you wouldn't have situations like with that Hollywood guy last week who was completely befuddled by the intersection. Because much like with our street signs, P&M assumes that you're a lifelong Winnipegger, that you know where you're going and don't need any directions or advance warning as to which way you should go.
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