Winnipeg Police Headquarters | Graham Ave.

[Riverman]

Originally Posted by headhorse

its downtown, why don't they take the bus?

What makes you think they all live in the city?

[rkspec]

Originally Posted by rrskylar

If even police officers don't feel safe downtown it sounds like an even bigger problem than providing secure parking!

the average 'bad guy' hates all cops, every jr thug thinks like that, F those pigs.

the average bad guy wont wait for me to exit a building, identify me as a cashier at Bell MTS center and want to shoot me.

jus saying

[drew]

Originally Posted by esquire

The WPA is making some noise after an incident involving an off-duty cop outside police HQ recently:

https://www.winnipegfreepress.com/lo...507305972.html



I have to admit, given the nature of the WPS' work, having some form of secured parking does not seem like an unreasonable request. The question then becomes, where does this parking go?

I presume it would have to be a parkade in order to be properly secured. The easiest solution would be for the city to turn over a level or two of the library parkade to the WPS, but that leads to its own problems. So where does such a parking facility go? On Graham or St. Mary Ave.?

This whole issue seems very suspicious, and seeing as the source is the Police Union, it seems they are just doing their part in trying to drum up public support for publicly financed parking garage for our hard-done by 6-figure earning, full pension drawing cops.

"It's unclear whether the weapon was loaded or if a suspect was arrested"

Yep, not suspicious at all.

I mean, why not just forgo a parking garage and give these guys a hyperloop to transport them to and from downtown to East St.Paul? That way they won't have to spend one minute more than possible in this horrible City? The poor babies.

Good grief.

[esquire]

Originally Posted by rrskylar

Fair enough but no one thought about that when the Canada Post building was being rehabbed into the new WPS headquarters? Seriously!

Seems like everything was an afterthought with the new WPS headquarters, did the city and WPS bother to look at what other cities were doing because obviously no one here was capable of formulating a plan for what the WPS needed!

Kind of like IGF, built to meet a budget knowing full well that certain obvious things would be omitted and have to be added eventually later.

"oh what's that, you wanted glass enclosing the press box/a secure area for cops to park for when they get off shift at 3 am? that'll be another X million dollars"

[esquire]

Originally Posted by drew

This whole issue seems very suspicious, and seeing as the source is the Police Union, it seems they are just doing their part in trying to drum up public support for publicly financed parking garage for our hard-done by 6-figure earning, full pension drawing cops.

Yep, not suspicious at all.

I mean, why not just forgo a parking garage and give these guys a hyperloop to transport them to and from downtown to East St.Paul? That way they won't have to spend one minute more than possible in this horrible City? The poor babies.

Good grief.

I consider myself a pretty cynical guy when it comes to the WPA but I do have to sympathize somewhat. If I was getting off work at 2 am and having to walk down a deserted street I don't know how comfortable I'd be, particularly with that line of work where as rkspec pointed out, there are goons with a chip on their shoulder looking for guys like you.

But maybe there are measures that could be implemented short of building a parkade? Has Sabourin ever looked at getting cops to try using the buddy system?

[Wpg_Guy]

Downtown watch or cadets can escort officers to their vehicles.

[drew]

Originally Posted by esquire

I consider myself a pretty cynical guy when it comes to the WPA but I do have to sympathize somewhat. If I was getting off work at 2 am and having to walk down a deserted street I don't know how comfortable I'd be, particularly with that line of work where as rkspec pointed out, there are goons with a chip on their shoulder looking for guys like you.

But maybe there are measures that could be implemented short of building a parkade? Has Sabourin ever looked at getting cops to try using the buddy system?

I quite honestly have absolutely zero sympathy for this particular plight.

Maybe this makes me a horrible person, but a police officer knows the risks of the job they are applying for, and are compensated more than fairly to do said job.

Everyone has some measure of risk getting to and from their jobs, and a plain clothes police officer walking down the street should offer no "thug with a gun" any more of a target than anyone else.

This whole situation just leaves me kinda angry actually. You want covered parking - buy a pass like everyone else.

[Hecate]

I agree with everything drew just said. The whole thing smells fishy.

[Wolf13]

Not buying it. They're by the far the most trained people in our city to handle a small walk. Or should be.

Mind you, 20 years ago before the offended olympics really took off, maybe few would have given this much time to a "feeling" of "safety".

What do cops in every other major city do?

[cllew]

Unlike the rest of us that work shift work downtown Police Officers can take their weapons home for protection on the streets (they have to secure them properly at home).

I had somebody banging on my car window at 02:00 last Tuesday morning at east bound Portage @ Donald.

[EdwardTH]

Originally Posted by rrskylar

Fair enough but no one thought about that when the Canada Post building was being rehabbed into the new WPS headquarters? Seriously!

Seems like everything was an afterthought with the new WPS headquarters, did the city and WPS bother to look at what other cities were doing because obviously no one here was capable of formulating a plan for what the WPS needed!

I don't know that it was so much an "afterthought", it was more that Caspian and Sam Katz just plowed this thing through so they could get their money. The guys in charge were crooks and they just said "fugget about it"

Originally Posted by Tacheguy

They mostly live outside the city lol

Yep, get paid a fortune to "serve the community" and they don't even live in it. There should be some sort of perks to city staff who actually live and pay taxes in the city. Either way they could still bus. You can park and ride. Cops get to ride for free. Plus it's their choice to live out in the boonies and drive, they can deal with the consequences of that choice. A lot of the downtown officers complain about paying for parking and its the same damn thing - you can bus for free if you want. Yeah there's no bus to East St Paul but you're the one who chose to live there, plus you make 6 figures, pay up and deal with it.

Originally Posted by cllew

Unlike the rest of us that work shift work downtown Police Officers can take their weapons home for protection on the streets (they have to secure them properly at home).

I had somebody banging on my car window at 02:00 last Tuesday morning at east bound Portage @ Donald.

This. They're highly trained, and are among the very few in Canada who can carry a firearm with them. Plus they do everything else with a partner, they can't manage to work out a buddy system to get back to their cars?

[Spocket]

Originally Posted by drew

I quite honestly have absolutely zero sympathy for this particular plight.

Maybe this makes me a horrible person, but a police officer knows the risks of the job they are applying for, and are compensated more than fairly to do said job.

Everyone has some measure of risk getting to and from their jobs, and a plain clothes police officer walking down the street should offer no "thug with a gun" any more of a target than anyone else.

This whole situation just leaves me kinda angry actually. You want covered parking - buy a pass like everyone else.

What are you, 16?

The difference between you and every cop is that no matter what you do, nuts with guns aren't going to show up at your workplace, wait for you to finish your shift and point a gun in your face just because you gave them a filet-o-fish instead of a Big Mac.

[esquire]

For what it's worth, even the most urban-minded police officer can't take a bus at 2:40 am which is around when the alleged incident in question took place.

[drew]

Originally Posted by Spocket

What are you, 16?

The difference between you and every cop is that no matter what you do, nuts with guns aren't going to show up at your workplace, wait for you to finish your shift and point a gun in your face just because you gave them a filet-o-fish instead of a Big Mac.

Cool.

So we are to believe that someone downtown pointed a gun at a police officer, pulled the trigger, and nothing happened.

Fine. So we have someone who the police union has accused of attempted murder, of a police officer. At the very least, it's armed robbery. Either way - pretty serious offenses.

Obviously, if this crime actually occurred, this person was arrested. Right? So what is his/her name? What crime are they charged with?

Did they get away without being caught? If so, where is the public alert that someone with a gun, who is actively trying to kill someone, is on the loose?

I am a bit skeptical of the veracity of this "report" from the Union.

If they are going to trot out these sensational dangers faced by police officers - they better back it up.

But even if this alleged offense occurred. The answer is still no. Buy a parking pass.

[rkspec]

Maybe they should invest in some video surveillance for the surrounding areas of the WPS headquarters, no?

[esquire]

Even if my car was parked in the Millennium Library parkade, I'm not sure how thrilled I'd be about going down there by myself at 2:30 am. I would think it has to be secure parking to pass muster with the WPA. So either Millennium Library (with secure skywalk access closed to the public late at night/early morning), or via skywalk to a new parkade/parking lot on an adjacent lot. I don't see what other choices they have.

(I guess there's also demolishing the office part of the complex to make way for a secure parking lot. Wouldn't that be something.)

[CoryB]

Originally Posted by esquire

The question then becomes, where does this parking go?

Police HQ has a skywalk link to the library and the library has parking. Answer seems pretty simple. Make a section of the lower level (or the whole level) secure police service parking but then charge members a premium over market rates to park there. After all it sells for $20 an evening on event days.

[bomberjet]

https://twitter.com/wpgpolice/status...90288034275329

https://www.winnipeg.ca/police/press...9.aspx#firearm
Firearm — Investigation: C19-56988

UPDATE:

Mitchell Dean BEARDY, a 38-year-old male of Winnipeg has been charged with Aggravated Assault of a Peace Officer, Possession of a Scheduled Substance for the Purpose of Trafficking - Cocaine and a number of firearm offences.

At the time of his arrest, he was found to be in possession of individually packaged baggies each containing approximately 6.6 grams of cocaine with a street value of approximately $600 and one 9mm bullet.

He has been detained at the Winnipeg Remand Centre.

As previously released:
On March 17, 2019, at approximately 2:40 a.m., an off duty officer reported being confronted by a male armed with a gun. The officer advised he was walking in the 100 block of Garry Street when he was approached by a male who struck up a conversation. After a brief exchange, the officer entered his personal vehicle. As the officer began to drive away, he observed the male produce a gun and point it in his direction. No shots were fired and the officer immediately left the area and called 911.

Officers attended and searched the area but were unable to locate the suspect. The investigation continued by members of the Major Crimes Unit.

On March 18, 2019, in the early afternoon, an adult male matching the suspect's description was located in the downtown area and taken into custody. He remains in custody at this time.

Downtown safety is top of mind for many in our community, including our own police community where nearly 70% of our resources are located.

We remind the public that the Downtown BIZ offers a SafeWalk program to escort anyone in the downtown area to their car or bus stop from 8 a.m. - Midnight.

The most effective measure you can take to protect yourself against crime is to stay alert to your surroundings and trust your instincts. If you feel unsafe in a situation or place, leave immediately and notify the police.

[drew]

^ good. But the answer is still no.

Interesting that this report makes no mention of the "pulling the trigger and gun misfiring" as per the union. That's probably a difficult detail to notice, while you are in your car, driving away.

[bomberjet]

Sounds like they made it up.

Also just clicked the link to the FreeP article and a picture of Ducky comes up. Wait.. being told it's a doppleganger.