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TwinTowersForever · #1 Posted **Aug 19, 2009, 8:00 PM**

The Twin Towers of the WTC were marveled by all. Because they were symbols of America's freedom they were destroyed. Many believed they should be rebuild t oshow our defiance as well as millions of others. Today we have that chance. A man named Kennethe Gardener has created a new Twin Towers plan that is taller safer stronger cheaper to build and supported by 9/11 families because it was designed partly by them. The plans can be seen at www.wtc2011.com or www.twintowersii.com. There is a fight going on to have them rebuilt at www.twintowersalliance.com. This is a proposed building. We will all find out how it goes soon. There is a good financing plan etc. The designer has it all worked out im just a supporter.

Here is a picture of the designer with his model

A picture of the new model

wong21fr · #2 Posted **Aug 19, 2009, 8:05 PM**

5....4....3....2....1....

M II A II R II K · #3 Posted **Aug 19, 2009, 8:06 PM**

Do you really think that the Freedom Tower as it is now will be demolished to make way for the new twin towers?

Try having it built somewhere else in Manhattan, and perhaps give it a different color, a nice gold perhaps, or gold plated stripes would work also.

Parkway · #4 Posted **Aug 19, 2009, 8:11 PM**

TalB stikes again...

Duffstuff129 · #5 Posted **Aug 19, 2009, 8:13 PM**

This project baffles me. The only resemblance these "Twin Towers" bear to the originals is the setback-less box shape. These towers don't even try to attain the subtle charm of the originals. If I were Minoru Yamasaki or the family of a 9/11 victim, I would be insulted.

Take this pile of trash away.

This is awful architecture.

M II A II R II K · #6 Posted **Aug 19, 2009, 8:16 PM**

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Originally Posted by Duffstuff129

This project baffles me. The only resemblance these "Twin Towers" bear to the originals is the setback-less box shape. These towers don't even try to attain the subtle charm of the originals. If I were Minoru Yamasaki or the family of a 9/11 victim, I would be insulted.

Take this pile of trash away.

This is awful architecture.

Which makes one wonder does this proposal even have the same stem like reinforcement that went all the way up to the top to enable more floor space by not getting too crowded with elevators.

TwinTowersForever · #7 Posted **Aug 19, 2009, 9:20 PM**

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Originally Posted by M II A II R II K

Which makes one wonder does this proposal even have the same stem like reinforcement that went all the way up to the top to enable more floor space by not getting too crowded with elevators.

It does. It has column free floorspace like the originals, and all the rest. Im going to get another picture to put on here.

TwinTowersForever · #8 Posted **Aug 19, 2009, 9:23 PM**

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Originally Posted by Duffstuff129

This project baffles me. The only resemblance these "Twin Towers" bear to the originals is the setback-less box shape. These towers don't even try to attain the subtle charm of the originals. If I were Minoru Yamasaki or the family of a 9/11 victim, I would be insulted.

Take this pile of trash away.

This is awful architecture.

Just look at the new pics. How do they not "resemble the origanals" There taller stronger yatta yatta. They cant just rebuild the originals exactly they did some 21st century updating

TwinTowersForever · #9 Posted **Aug 19, 2009, 9:08 PM**

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Originally Posted by M II A II R II K

Do you really think that the Freedom Tower as it is now will be demolished to make way for the new twin towers?

Try having it built somewhere else in Manhattan, and perhaps give it a different color, a nice gold perhaps, or gold plated stripes would work also.

The engineer has assured us he can build over what has been done

SD360 · #10 Posted **Aug 23, 2009, 2:13 PM**

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Originally Posted by TwinTowersForever

The engineer has assured us he can build over what has been done

where is the source where you got this info. and, if they scrapped the current wtc design, the TTII would be completed in 2017

@KyleDavid13 · #11 Posted **Aug 20, 2009, 2:13 AM**

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Originally Posted by M II A II R II K

Do you really think that the Freedom Tower as it is now will be demolished to make way for the new twin towers?

Try having it built somewhere else in Manhattan, and perhaps give it a different color, a nice gold perhaps, or gold plated stripes would work also.

lol The Freedom Tower hasn't really started and why not demolish it when it will take 9 or so years to complete it anyway. The Twin Towers could be built a lot faster and with more effort/love.

Dac150 · #12 Posted **Aug 20, 2009, 2:14 AM**

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lol The Freedom Tower hasn't really started and why not demolish it when it will take 9 or so years to complete it anyway. The Twin Towers could be built a lot faster and with more effort/love.

To be honest I think a talking rat wearing a bellhop outfit is more credible than what you just said.

Duffstuff129 · #13 Posted **Aug 20, 2009, 2:35 AM**

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Originally Posted by Dac150

To be honest I think a talking rat wearing a bellhop outfit is more credible than what you just said.

JDRCRASH · #14 Posted **Aug 20, 2009, 5:27 AM**

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Originally Posted by M II A II R II K

Try having it built somewhere else in Manhattan, and perhaps give it a different color, a nice gold perhaps, or gold plated stripes would work also.

But, but, it's not the same...

Dac150 · #15 Posted **Aug 19, 2009, 8:11 PM**

Not to mention that this guys so called design is so conveniently similar in so many ways to the proposal of Donald Trump way back when. Hey, if I didn’t know any better I’d say it’s the same exact one. Please, take this nonsense elsewhere; what you see rising, like it or not, is what you’ll be getting. End of story.

TwinTowersForever · #16 Posted **Aug 19, 2009, 9:14 PM**

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Originally Posted by Dac150

Not to mention that this guys so called design is so conveniently similar in so many ways to the proposal of Donald Trump way back when. Hey, if I didn’t know any better I’d say it’s the same exact one. Please, take this nonsense elsewhere; what you see rising, like it or not, is what you’ll be getting. End of story.

Ken was the one who designed Trumps proposal. trump just promoted it. Besides the freedom tower was picked in an illegitamate process by Pataki that crook who picked the FT because of political contributions. He admitted it in an MSNBC interview recently

@KyleDavid13 · #17 Posted **Aug 21, 2009, 9:41 PM**

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Originally Posted by Dac150

Not to mention that this guys so called design is so conveniently similar in so many ways to the proposal of Donald Trump way back when. Hey, if I didn’t know any better I’d say it’s the same exact one. Please, take this nonsense elsewhere; what you see rising, like it or not, is what you’ll be getting. End of story.

Donald Trump didn't propose the Twin Towers II plan. That isn't his design..the public doesn't understand that he basically just endorsed it and made it known. The Twin Towers Mr. Trump shown were the same as what we're talking about, the Twin Towers II plan-The Best Plan For Ground Zero.

M II A II R II K · #18 Posted **Aug 19, 2009, 8:14 PM**

And plus what's the antenna for? For show perhaps.

MolsonExport · #19 Posted **Aug 19, 2009, 8:19 PM**

TalB?

Dac150 · #20 Posted **Aug 19, 2009, 8:20 PM**

This proposal is nothing but a cheap imitation that doesn’t even scratch the surface of the essence that the originals carried. Plus it’s lined on the bottom with condo buildings straight out of Palm Beach.