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Old Posted Sep 29, 2019, 9:03 AM
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Old Posted Oct 2, 2019, 1:52 AM
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Rye NY and New Canaan CT are amazing little towns but very pricey.
arguably you get what you pay for, unlike most north sure LI suburbs which lack nice town centers

(Nassau is really 'the city', at least the southern half)
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Let's get on the LIRR and let check out some north shore LI suburbs:

Great Neck Plaza:

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7881...7i13312!8i6656

Port Washington

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.8306...7i13312!8i6656

Huntington

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.8711...7i13312!8i6656

..and not much else
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Old Posted Oct 2, 2019, 2:46 AM
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I like Missouri City most among the Fort Bend (North-Southwest Houston area) suburbs.
Missouri City? Seriously? I lived there as a kid in its heyday in the 80's when it was full of country clubs and cops drove around in Volvo's but today it's pretty dumpy. Sugar Land/ Meadows is the nicer suburbs down that way now.
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My Mom is from there, but about 15 years older than you if I had to guess. I think when my grandparents bought their home there in 1965 it was just unincorporated and Missouri City annexed them later.

There is nothing in Missouri City except subdivisions . It has its own municipal government which does not do much of anything beyond a tiny police department (I think). I think the MUDs and HOAs provide private infrastructure and parks and enforce the covenants and deed restrictions and stuff. It doesn’t have any major commercial areas or a center. You have to get off major roads and get lost to even find the place. It’s boundaries are very random, one neighborhood might be in the city while across the road is the county or in the city of Houston.

Probably my least favorite Houston suburb to be honest. I don’t like Fort Bend or the sprawl going up 290 or Spring or Atascocita. It’s all bland tract homes and feels like nowhere. So much of my dislike of Houston is really my dislike for its suburbs, the city proper is at least somewhat interesting.
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Interesting, if not spread out. La Porte, Galveston (which almost doesn't even count for obvious reasons), Kemah, Tomball and Bellaire (which also shouldn't count) have interesting town centers.

League City has an underrated town center but it is tiny compared to the endless suburban sprawl, randomly directed roads, strip malls and countless McMansions that surround it.
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The San Diego north county beach cities are spectacular.

Cardiff, Del Mar, Encinitas, Solana Beach, Carlsbad





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Old Posted Oct 3, 2019, 7:23 AM
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My Mom is from there, but about 15 years older than you if I had to guess. I think when my grandparents bought their home there in 1965 it was just unincorporated and Missouri City annexed them later.

There is nothing in Missouri City except subdivisions . It has its own municipal government which does not do much of anything beyond a tiny police department (I think). I think the MUDs and HOAs provide private infrastructure and parks and enforce the covenants and deed restrictions and stuff. It doesn’t have any major commercial areas or a center. You have to get off major roads and get lost to even find the place. It’s boundaries are very random, one neighborhood might be in the city while across the road is the county or in the city of Houston.

Probably my least favorite Houston suburb to be honest. I don’t like Fort Bend or the sprawl going up 290 or Spring or Atascocita. It’s all bland tract homes and feels like nowhere. So much of my dislike of Houston is really my dislike for its suburbs, the city proper is at least somewhat interesting.
I'm in my mid 40's. MO City seemed alright back when i was growing up but this is looking through lens of a teenager. It struck me as sterile even then. It went downhill pretty fast after the oil bust in the late 80's and by then I moved away (NY). Agreed about the sprawl up 290. Jersey Village, Copperfield, Spring, etc. are terrible. Parts of Atascocita are actually kinda nice though. The portion that borders Kingwood at least and look very "Kingwood-ish". It gets meh as you get towards Humble. Less trees and neighborhoods more sterile.

@Phun1 I'm doing my MBA down in Clear Lake and own property down there. It's quirky down that way but lost its soul when NASA stopped sending people into space. That goes for the whole area which has become overrun with track housing. The Bay Area has lost its character and is just another suburb.
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League City's town center is charming but small.

EDIT: And by town center, I mean its historic core, not any strip mall paradise calling itself a town center.

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For Montreal, I'd say Rosemere or Lorraine on the North Shore. Saint-Lambert on the South Shore.
I absolutely love the old village cores of Montreal's suburbs (the new subdivisions tend to be bland around here, and I am being polite).

La Prairie
https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.42052...7i13312!8i6656
https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.41981...7i13312!8i6656

Saint-Lambert
https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.50173...7i13312!8i6656
https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.50418...7i13312!8i6656

Longueuil
https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.53883...7i16384!8i8192

Chambly
https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.44806...7i13312!8i6656
https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.44709...7i13312!8i6656

Beloeil & Mont-Saint-Hilaire
https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.56982...7i13312!8i6656
https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.57079...7i13312!8i6656
https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.55346...7i13312!8i6656

Saint-Jean-sur-Richelieu
https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.30509...7i13312!8i6656
https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.30985...7i13312!8i6656
https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.31403...7i13312!8i6656

Terrebonne
https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.69271...7i13312!8i6656
https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.69323...7i13312!8i6656
https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.69254...7i13312!8i6656
https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.69271...!7i5376!8i2688
https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.69535...7i16384!8i8192

Sainte-Thérèse
https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.64089...7i16384!8i8192
https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.63950...7i16384!8i8192

Saint-Jérôme
https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.77855...7i16384!8i8192
https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.77714...7i13312!8i6656

Saint-Eustache
https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.55847...7i16384!8i8192
https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.55810...7i13312!8i6656
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Montreal’s suburbs look more American to me than anything in Toronto

Like Philly, Boston, ny suburbs
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As muppet suggests, London’s best suburbs are now technically part of the city proper because they were amalgamated in 1965. But in British parlance, an area can still be called a “suburb” whether or not it is part of Greater London. It’s a suburb if it is sub-urban.
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The suburb I live in is called Maisons-Alfort. Though we've got some fair things out here, it is nothing outstanding (yet), honestly. I would only call it decent.
We don't have crime. We're a (gentrifying and somewhat upper) middle class suburb, so most locals are busy at work to feed their kids on the best they can afford.
Some urban lots here and there are still a bit messy and need some treatment. And the architectural options of our Conservative mayor are not always those I would advertise, far from there.
But overall, we're ok, in light blue on that map of the Paris region I just found in the Fr-speaking section of SSC.


https://www.metropolitiques.eu

I'm bringing it on here cause it's likely to be informative to all those who don't actually know the metro area in details.

Purple: senior officials, teachers and students, people working for the media or show business, artists.
Dark and light blues: entrepreneurs, (senior) executives, engineers, lawyers, doctors, better-off retired... Folks like these.
Dark and light greens: farmers, blue-collar workers and some engineers.
Yellow: lower middle class like blue-collar workers, clerks of lower ranks, employees lacking better skills and so on.
Red: rough working class. That's where people really lack education and most crime is.

That's about it. When you spent your entire life here like myself, you may feel home pretty much anywhere in there.
But when you're a tourist, you'd better stick to purple and blue. Some green or even yellow may do, but do not try red.
It'd be risky for a lost tourist.
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