Edmonton Public Transit II (October 2023) - Page 13

DKaz · #**241** Posted **Apr 21, 2024, 5:25 PM**

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Originally Posted by feepa

elitist bikers? Want safe spaces to commute in? How dare they! Those elitist motorists wont have to share the road as much? OH no! Fuck that. hyukhyukhyuk

Yep. Elitist is someone thinking only their 3,000+ lb vehicle deserves access to a road.

Black Star · #**242** Posted **Apr 22, 2024, 3:59 PM**

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Originally Posted by DKaz

Yep. Elitist is someone thinking only their 3,000+ lb vehicle deserves access to a road.

No one said this lol....Nice try tho. 3000 lb vehicles dominate the roads. If your so against Vehicles...I want you to ride your bike 365 days a year lol.

Harrison · #**243** Posted **Apr 22, 2024, 4:44 PM**

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Originally Posted by Black Star

No one said this lol....Nice try tho. 3000 lb vehicles dominate the roads. If your so against Vehicles...I want you to ride your bike 365 days a year lol.

How is a $2000 bike elitist while a $100,000 Ram 3500 is not? lol

I also bike 365 days a year but also own a cheap car (I drive sometimes) - we need more bike infratructure.

feepa · #**244** Posted **Apr 22, 2024, 4:57 PM**

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Originally Posted by Black Star

No one said this lol....Nice try tho. 3000 lb vehicles dominate the roads. If your so against Vehicles...I want you to ride your bike 365 days a year lol.

*you're

Who said anyone is against vehicles? A bike is a vehicle.

Love these 'tough guys' that get triggered by things like bike lanes, rainbows, equality, and and such.

Hallsy's Toupee · #**245** Posted **Apr 22, 2024, 5:07 PM**

I love the fact that we have different options these days for transportation: walking, cycling, e-scootering, blading, bus, LRT, private vehicle, taxi, Uber.

Anyone who doesn't believe in this and is against this - well, I'm sorry but I'm afraid you're still stuck in the 20th century.

TimB09 · #**246** Posted **Apr 23, 2024, 1:07 PM**

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Originally Posted by Hallsy's Toupee

I love the fact that we have different options these days for transportation: walking, cycling, e-scootering, blading, bus, LRT, private vehicle, taxi, Uber.

Anyone who doesn't believe in this and is against this - well, I'm sorry but I'm afraid you're still stuck in the 20th century.

That's our Black Star

DKaz · #**247** Posted **Apr 23, 2024, 10:11 PM**

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Originally Posted by Black Star

No one said this lol....Nice try tho. 3000 lb vehicles dominate the roads. If your so against Vehicles...I want you to ride your bike 365 days a year lol.

I drive lots and I bike as much as possible. What's wrong with choice? My health has improved, my 14 month old enjoys being on the bike with me vs. being stuck in a car seat.

Of course cars dominate the roads, that's why it's so congested.

DKaz · #**248** Posted **Apr 23, 2024, 10:16 PM**

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Originally Posted by feepa

*you're

Who said anyone is against vehicles? A bike is a vehicle.

Love these 'tough guys' that get triggered by things like bike lanes, rainbows, equality, and and such.

Everytime I try to bring up the concept that at the end of the day, we're trying to get people and goods around it blows the anti-transportation-choice people's minds. We're not moving around cars, not bikes and scooters, not trains and buses. People and goods. The city is getting that fortunately and working towards accommodating all the ways people and goods get around.

Black Star · #**249** Posted **Apr 24, 2024, 4:14 AM**

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Originally Posted by DKaz

I drive lots and I bike as much as possible. What's wrong with choice? My health has improved, my 14 month old enjoys being on the bike with me vs. being stuck in a car seat.

Of course cars dominate the roads, that's why it's so congested.

Obviously nothing wrong with choice. Never did I say anything different!! I love biking also. But I'm responsible and courteous when I ride. I rock out a bell and use it when I'm approaching people from behind...unlike 99% of bikers I encounter, and have respect for people and my own safety when I'm riding. I can tell you from taking my dog to numerous dog parks in Edmonton or driving everyday 7 days a week in this city that most of the biking populous doesn't give a flying shit about anything around them. Drivers these days are pretty much the same. When my dad was teaching me how to drive many moons ago he would always say...."You always have to drive for others and keep your head on a damn swivel" And this also goes for bikers these days. lol.

stilicho · #**250** Posted **Apr 24, 2024, 9:13 AM**

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Originally Posted by Coldrsx

^ha.

It's a bit of a mess, but really comes down to a lack of attention by drivers.

Motorists are people as are all of us. I try to pay attention, as a lifelong pedestrian, but I amply recognize that motorists are confronted by a bewildering buffet of turn signals, scramble intersections, one-way streets that sometimes blossom into all-way roads, restricted right turns, and now a slow tramway pushing awkwardly down the middle of the street towards Lewis Farms.

Should motorists have engaged more actively during that phase? Were any of them made aware of the changes which are now irretrievably baked into the flawed design?

Maybe include a brochure with the 8% property tax boost.

Rocket252 · #**251** Posted **Apr 24, 2024, 1:41 PM**

^ Or maybe they are just bad drivers?

Ever driven in European cities?

This is nothing compared to that.

feepa · #**252** Posted **Apr 24, 2024, 1:47 PM**

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Originally Posted by Black Star

Obviously nothing wrong with choice. Never did I say anything different!! I love biking also. But I'm responsible and courteous when I ride. I rock out a bell and use it when I'm approaching people from behind...unlike 99% of bikers I encounter, and have respect for people and my own safety when I'm riding. I can tell you from taking my dog to numerous dog parks in Edmonton or driving everyday 7 days a week in this city that most of the biking populous doesn't give a flying shit about anything around them. Drivers these days are pretty much the same. When my dad was teaching me how to drive many moons ago he would always say...."You always have to drive for others and keep your head on a damn swivel" And this also goes for bikers these days. lol.

So you agree then that the best approach is to build a separate network of bike lanes? Seems like you're flipflopping around again, par for the course.

stilicho · #**253** Posted **Apr 26, 2024, 9:22 AM**

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Originally Posted by Rocket252

^ Or maybe they are just bad drivers?

Ever driven in European cities?

This is nothing compared to that.

I've heard this argument a lot. It's not the design that's at fault but that motorists, cyclists and pedestrians just have to be lot smarter.

Is that the official policy of our urban planners and city council?

"You're not really that good at getting where you want and we're not going to help so just run for your lives and hope you don't wind up a casualty because Europe."

Xelebes · #**254** Posted **Apr 27, 2024, 5:14 PM**

I have to say that when downtown is in transition, the traffic situation is deeply in flux. There does need to be a coherent philosophy when it comes to placement and direction that is currently lacking.

stilicho · #**255** Posted **Apr 29, 2024, 5:01 AM**

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Originally Posted by Xelebes

I have to say that when downtown is in transition, the traffic situation is deeply in flux. There does need to be a coherent philosophy when it comes to placement and direction that is currently lacking.

Downtown is dead except for party people and homeless people. It wasn't always this way. This was either a deliberate plan or the professional planners aren't as clever as they thought they were.

Our vibrant residential "core" is within striking distance of the Henday. That's where all the development is now--Leduc, Beaumont, Fort Saskatchewan. Downtown Edmonton is all about conversion from commercial and retail to unaffordable residential.

And none of those people living in Stantec or the other towers will ever use the LRT. Period.

Coldrsx · #**256** Posted **Apr 29, 2024, 6:45 AM**

^maybe the most mishguided comment in a long, long time?

feepa · #**257** Posted **Apr 29, 2024, 1:53 PM**

he's not wrong, CanmoreRsx.

It's just that you've been out of touch for so long;

Harrison · #**258** Posted **Apr 29, 2024, 5:26 PM**

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Originally Posted by feepa

he's not wrong, CanmoreRsx.

It's just that you've been out of touch for so long;

He's not 100% right though, I know people 'living in Stantec or the other towers' that definitely use the LRT regularly.

It's also decently busy Downtown during the workday - people still work there, not just 'party people and the homeless'.

Buddy probably typed that all from a McMansion in Windermere lol

Xelebes · #**259** Posted **Apr 29, 2024, 5:58 PM**

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Originally Posted by stilicho

Downtown is dead except for party people and homeless people. It wasn't always this way. This was either a deliberate plan or the professional planners aren't as clever as they thought they were.

Our vibrant residential "core" is within striking distance of the Henday. That's where all the development is now--Leduc, Beaumont, Fort Saskatchewan. Downtown Edmonton is all about conversion from commercial and retail to unaffordable residential.

And none of those people living in Stantec or the other towers will ever use the LRT. Period.

Downtown isn't dead. There's vehicles making mistakes and colliding into others there.

Coldrsx · #**260** Posted **Apr 29, 2024, 7:39 PM**

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