Alberta Politics II - Page 48

suburbia · #**941** Posted **Apr 11, 2019, 3:53 PM**

Andrew Scheer's campaign manager Hamish Marshall blasts Jason Kenney's campaign in letter to Kenney's lawyer for lack of checks and balances in the UCP leadership race. This under the shadow of an RCMP investigation uncovering a growing pile of evidence of voter fraud by Jason Kenney's team.

LINK - https://globalnews.ca/news/5154063/2...leaked-emails/

jawagord · #**942** Posted **Apr 11, 2019, 4:18 PM**

Negative campaigning is not what Albertans want, it turns off voters, it demeans politics as a profession. 1 more week of this farce of an election campaign.

When Rachel Notley called the election and let slip the dogs of political war three weeks ago, we knew we were in for an ugly, knock-down, bare-knuckle brawl. And that's what we got. But that's not what Albertans wanted.

Albertans wanted a debate over policy and programs, where Notley could defend her policies and Jason Kenney could outline his. Instead we got a campaign where NDP Leader Rachel Notley on the first day called her main opponent, United Conservative Party Leader Jason Kenney, a liar and a cheat. We got a campaign where Kenney has accused the NDP of having an anti-oil agenda and of fostering an anti-pipeline alliance with Prime Minister Trudeau.

They think the news media, rather than presenting unbiased facts, is becoming too "opinionated." And that social media, rather than sharing information, has become a toxic echo chamber.

They feel the media is helping perpetuate the adversarial nature of the partisan campaigns rather than cutting through the rhetoric to explain issues and policies. They want less excoriation and more explanation.

A sad observation: several members of the focus group pointed out they hadn't seen many political party signs in their neighbourhoods. And they wondered if perhaps the campaign had grown so divisive and nasty that people were afraid to publicly declare their political loyalty. That's not how it should be.

If that's what's happening, it's a troubling example of the toxic twitter-verse infecting the real world.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmon...line-1.5091534

suburbia · #**943** Posted **Apr 11, 2019, 4:24 PM**

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmon...line-1.5091534

Quote:

A sad observation: several members of the focus group pointed out they hadn't seen many political party signs in their neighbourhoods. And they wondered if perhaps the campaign had grown so divisive and nasty that people were afraid to publicly declare their political loyalty.

That's not how it should be.

suburbia · #**944** Posted **Apr 11, 2019, 4:35 PM**

Same operatives who secured servers for Doug Ford's team seem to be behind the serves Jason Kenney used to process thousands of fraudulent e-mails in the voter fraud being investigated by the RCMP

LINK - https://www.albertandp.ca/press-rele...eadership-race

suburbia · #**945** Posted **Apr 11, 2019, 5:27 PM**

LINK - https://pressprogress.ca/ucp-candida...re-in-college/

milomilo · #**946** Posted **Apr 11, 2019, 7:10 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by jawagord

Negative campaigning is not what Albertans want, it turns off voters, it demeans politics as a profession. 1 more week of this farce of an election campaign.

When Rachel Notley called the election and let slip the dogs of political war three weeks ago, we knew we were in for an ugly, knock-down, bare-knuckle brawl. And that's what we got. But that's not what Albertans wanted.

Albertans wanted a debate over policy and programs, where Notley could defend her policies and Jason Kenney could outline his. Instead we got a campaign where NDP Leader Rachel Notley on the first day called her main opponent, United Conservative Party Leader Jason Kenney, a liar and a cheat. We got a campaign where Kenney has accused the NDP of having an anti-oil agenda and of fostering an anti-pipeline alliance with Prime Minister Trudeau.

They think the news media, rather than presenting unbiased facts, is becoming too "opinionated." And that social media, rather than sharing information, has become a toxic echo chamber.

They feel the media is helping perpetuate the adversarial nature of the partisan campaigns rather than cutting through the rhetoric to explain issues and policies. They want less excoriation and more explanation.

A sad observation: several members of the focus group pointed out they hadn't seen many political party signs in their neighbourhoods. And they wondered if perhaps the campaign had grown so divisive and nasty that people were afraid to publicly declare their political loyalty. That's not how it should be.

If that's what's happening, it's a troubling example of the toxic twitter-verse infecting the real world.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmon...line-1.5091534

Oh wah, wah wah. If the UCP didn't want to suffer negative campaigning they shouldn't (well, maybe they didn't...) have chosen a bigoted, obnoxious cretin as their leader, that has happened to have attracted even more garbage humans to run with him.

canucklehead2 · #**947** Posted **Apr 11, 2019, 7:57 PM**

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Originally Posted by milomilo

Oh wah, wah wah. If the UCP didn't want to suffer negative campaigning they shouldn't (well, maybe they didn't...) have chosen a bigoted, obnoxious cretin as their leader, that has happened to have attracted even more garbage humans to run with him.

Bingo! Last time I checked I have yet to see anything remotely as toxic as what's coming from the Ugly CessPool and its "leadership." I truly fear for Alberta should they win on Tuesday...

suburbia · #**948** Posted **Apr 11, 2019, 8:00 PM**

Jason Kenney's UCP to skip major candidate forum on health being hosted by the University of Calgary at the central library. This is starting to become quite the trend!

LINK - https://twitter.com/OBrien_IPH/statu...28129352814592

suburbia · #**949** Posted **Apr 11, 2019, 8:05 PM**

Diversify or die: Why the next Alberta premier must look beyond oil

LINK - https://twitter.com/bpincott/status/1116426822617456640

• Video Link

mintzilla · #**950** Posted **Apr 11, 2019, 11:59 PM**

If you live in Edmonton don’t go to the terwillegar rec Center pre voting station. It’s busy as fuck! Go to the old folks home nearby in rabbit hill road. Super dead there ( the polls not the old people)

Xelebes · #**951** Posted **Apr 12, 2019, 12:38 AM**

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Originally Posted by mintzilla

( the polls not the old people)

Thank you for the clarification. I was worried for a minute there.

suburbia · #**952** Posted **Apr 12, 2019, 2:49 AM**

LINK - https://maybemore.ca/2019/04/10/3-th...erta-election/

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Why are people assuming that Jason Kenney/UCP equates to pipelines and economic successes?

Who do we elect if it’s not the person already doing a good job?

Who do we elect if it’s not the person already doing a good job?

suburbia · #**953** Posted **Apr 12, 2019, 3:52 AM**

It is going to start getting EXTREMELY hard for UCP supporters to keep defending their candidates for not showing up to candidate forums

LINK - https://twitter.com/ReahArora/status...48488941096960

suburbia · #**954** Posted **Apr 12, 2019, 4:26 AM**

So now we know why UCP candidate Toor chose not to show up at the latest candidates forum. This is unreal!

LINK - https://pressprogress.ca/ucp-candida...dark-basement/

mintzilla · #**955** Posted **Apr 12, 2019, 4:48 AM**

do only bad people aspire to be politicians?

thats some pretty f***** up stuff, although you hear about it a lot. especially in the Filipino community.

suburbia · #**956** Posted **Apr 12, 2019, 4:55 AM**

In the 2012 provincial election, UCP (IE WR + PC) received 78.24% of the popular vote. They have been in free fall ever since.

Corndogger · #**957** Posted **Apr 12, 2019, 5:38 AM**

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Originally Posted by suburbia

In the 2012 provincial election, UCP (IE WR + PC) received 78.24% of the popular vote. They have been in free fall ever since.

276K people voted in the first two days of advanced polling. That's not a good sign for the NDP.

suburbia · #**958** Posted **Apr 12, 2019, 1:36 PM**

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Originally Posted by Corndogger

276K people voted in the first two days of advanced polling. That's not a good sign for the NDP.

Unless they were 276K educated young people who otherwise may not have voted previously being jaded by the domination of the extremist right. 403K in the first three days!

Look - in 2012, 1.3M people voted and 78% were UCP. In 2015, 200K extra showed up with an overall younger more educated demographic, and the UCP were thrown out because of incompetency and building sky palaces. The largest loss of employment was in the last year of the UCP government - more than any of the years of the NDP being in power.

* when I say UCP, I'm counting their parents, the wild rose and progressive conservatives

ciudad_del_norte · #**959** Posted **Apr 12, 2019, 2:41 PM**

Funny, almost every party has claimed the high early voting turnout as a good sign for them. It really does depend on who is voting.

What I still don't understand is what the deal is with many UPC candidates not showing up for forums. Okay...well I kind of understand it but its also odd to me that its possible that majority of people will be voting for people that couldn't even show up to discuss their position.

milomilo · #**960** Posted **Apr 12, 2019, 3:16 PM**

It's a good strategy on their part. The people in Medicine Hat and Brooks will vote UCP regardless, but it is statistically likely that every time a UCP candidate opens their mouth something objectional will come out of it, harming the party province wide. So the best option is for them to not even campaign and win without risk.