Philadelphian Politics

[Urbanthusiat]

Philly, get ready to move your cars. Citywide street sweeping is coming by 2023, Kenney says.

Thank god this is finally happening - but why start in 3 years instead of sooner?

[cardeza]

Originally Posted by Urbanthusiat

Philly, get ready to move your cars. Citywide street sweeping is coming by 2023, Kenney says.

Thank god this is finally happening - but why start in 3 years instead of sooner?

if you read it he is saying by that year it will be citywide- he isnt saying nothing happens between now and then. i.e. it will ramp up and expand over next 3 years.

[ScreamShatter]

It’s very unacceptable that Kenney ran on street sweeping in 2015 and not only didn’t deliver in his first term but is now saying it won’t be fully rolled out until the end of his second term. We deserve better leaders who are held accountable for not delivering on their campaign promises.

[3rd&Brown]

Originally Posted by ScreamShatter

It’s very unacceptable that Kenney ran on street sweeping in 2015 and not only didn’t deliver in his first term but is now saying it won’t be fully rolled out until the end of his second term. We deserve better leaders who are held accountable for not delivering on their campaign promises.

He's such a mediocre mayor. Fingers crossed for somebody who values competency in the next cycle. My #1 is Alan Domb.

[jsbrook]

Originally Posted by 3rd&Brown

He's such a mediocre mayor. Fingers crossed for somebody who values competency in the next cycle. My #1 is Alan Domb.

[ScreamShatter]

Originally Posted by 3rd&Brown

He's such a mediocre mayor. Fingers crossed for somebody who values competency in the next cycle. My #1 is Alan Domb.

He’s been awful. Trash in the streets, the roads are in total disrepair, etc. we deserve better.

I suspect Alan Domb would get tons of pushback from the socialist taking over Philly government. Last summer, I had a socialist canvassing for the Dem primaries show up at my door begging me to vote for anyone but Domb. She then proceeded to tell me she was against the tax abatements, has 7 cats, is a grad student studying philosophy, and wants Philly to provide houses for everyone. I told her to look at the schools, roads, and trash as the city can’t do the basics right but less manage housing. Anyways, the point is he’d have lots of pushback, though I’d love to see him run.

Make Squilla has been a great ward leader for us. I’d be interested in seeing him run.

[allovertown]

Originally Posted by ScreamShatter

He’s been awful. Trash in the streets, the roads are in total disrepair, etc. we deserve better.

I suspect Alan Domb would get tons of pushback from the socialist taking over Philly government. Last summer, I had a socialist canvassing for the Dem primaries show up at my door begging me to vote for anyone but Domb. She then proceeded to tell me she was against the tax abatements, has 7 cats, is a grad student studying philosophy, and wants Philly to provide houses for everyone. I told her to look at the schools, roads, and trash as the city can’t do the basics right but less manage housing. Anyways, the point is he’d have lots of pushback, though I’d love to see him run.

Make Squilla has been a great ward leader for us. I’d be interested in seeing him run.

Just for future reference. No one cares to hear "ScreamShatter" opine on politics. Just keep in mind, you don't have to post every goddamn thought rolling around in your head. Socialists taking over philly... jesus christ.

It's incredible how some people just can't help themselves.

[3rd&Brown]

Originally Posted by ScreamShatter

He’s been awful. Trash in the streets, the roads are in total disrepair, etc. we deserve better.

I suspect Alan Domb would get tons of pushback from the socialist taking over Philly government. Last summer, I had a socialist canvassing for the Dem primaries show up at my door begging me to vote for anyone but Domb. She then proceeded to tell me she was against the tax abatements, has 7 cats, is a grad student studying philosophy, and wants Philly to provide houses for everyone. I told her to look at the schools, roads, and trash as the city can’t do the basics right but less manage housing. Anyways, the point is he’d have lots of pushback, though I’d love to see him run.

Make Squilla has been a great ward leader for us. I’d be interested in seeing him run.

Alan Domb will speak with a level of clarity that others won't even know how to formulate a plan to create.

I have heard him say he thinks he can lift 100,000 people out of poverty in Philadelphia.

Guess what? He will have a plan to do it that doesn't just involve spending more money with zero accounting (Kenney's answer to everything), and he will hold himself accountable.

I think when you hear goals like that. Very specific goals. Not just "we're going to improve education", it will be hard to ignore him.

He has some unlikely allies from the "socialist" wing...i.e. Gym etc. They've always had a good working relationship on council.

He will surprise you.

[Boku]

Originally Posted by 3rd&Brown

He's such a mediocre mayor. Fingers crossed for somebody who values competency in the next cycle. My #1 is Alan Domb.

Lol

[Frontst17]

There’s street sweeping now and it’s already been expanded to a larger portion of the city. Great to see it further expanded

[cardeza]

Originally Posted by ScreamShatter

It’s very unacceptable that Kenney ran on street sweeping in 2015 and not only didn’t deliver in his first term but is now saying it won’t be fully rolled out until the end of his second term. We deserve better leaders who are held accountable for not delivering on their campaign promises.

There was no way you were getting full sweeping in first term- they dont even have enough equipment to make that possible. Staff and machinery don't just appear out of thin air after a politician makes a promise. Its a similar story with the paving- one reason for the less than adequate paving output each year was the amount of staff and paving equipment available. They had to add personnel and purchase new equipment such that 3 paving crews could operate simultaneously during the summer months.

[ScreamShatter]

Originally Posted by cardeza

There was no way you were getting full sweeping in first term- they dont even have enough equipment to make that possible. Staff and machinery don't just appear out of thin air after a politician makes a promise. Its a similar story with the paving- one reason for the less than adequate paving output each year was the amount of staff and paving equipment available. They had to add personnel and purchase new equipment such that 3 paving crews could operate simultaneously during the summer months.

Kenney did next to nothing on street cleaning until his last year where they slapped together a pathetic pilot. His inaction and ability to deliver is inexcusable. He didn’t deserve a second term.

[iheartphilly]

CBD's are generally clean like sidewalk sweeping and the streets are clean as a consequence. But some main thoroughfare like Broad Street, Washington Ave to name a couple could benefit from street sweeping.

[iamrobk]

Street sweeping was always going to be a second term thing - no one wanted to deal with potential political blowback, especially after doing something as controversial as the beverage tax. But the money has been allocated in the budget and it's coming, they just need to hire people and get the equipment.

Re: street paving, page 19 of this shows things are getting better: https://www.phila.gov/media/20200106...ERM-REPORT.pdf
Just anecdotally, still plenty of improvement needed, but the roads do seem a bit better than they were 2-3 years ago.

[Boku]

It must be exhausting to be so miserable all of the time.

[mcgrath618]

Rhynhart has my vote if she runs. Anyone who audits the PPA is qualified in my book.

[SEFTA]

[iamrobk]

https://whyy.org/articles/how-philly...medium=twitter

Quite timely, but this is an interesting look at the history of street sweeping in Philly. I didn't know it was as limited as this article makes it sound (though it also reinforces why politicians have been hesitant to bring it back...).