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Old Posted Apr 9, 2015, 7:37 PM
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If we add 80 South Street it its not even there.

One57 was the granddaddy of the big tower boom though. Its a pretty good title to say that 1,004 feet is the 16th tallest or so when we add all the other towers. Will be nice in the stats rankings.

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If we add 80 South Street it its not even there.

One57 was the grandaddy of the big tower boom though.
They counted 125 Greenwich street twice though although I'm sure another project will knock it out of the top ten sooner or later
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^ Nice render. Greenwich Street and 22 Thames Street is the same building under different names.
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So Thames Street and Greenwich Street are two different buildings?

EDIT: nvm answered.


This looks cute. Any renderings from the Hudson or East Rivers?
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[I]42 Trinity Place, image by Studio C Architects[/I



The red building has no windows on the south side..
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The red building has no windows on the south side..
Ignoring the red building would be like an Orthodontist (developer) ignoring a tooth in need of removal. Even though the Orthodontist can't remove it alone, the tooth needs to be removed, so you call in the dentist (the city). The LPC will want to perform a root canal and "crown" the tooth, but we all know it's beyond repair.
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I walked by today and noticed that the mundane hotel site (ie, 50 Trinity) is still vacant. I wondered if the developers had acquired it, but as per ACRIS, they have not.

This "proposal" seems to include 50 Trinity and the small adjacent parcel on the corner of Greenwich and Rector, where the diner is located. The developers do not appear to own that either. Even if they don't acquire either, they still have enough air rights for a supertall.
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Not bad. Sort of a modern day Flatiron.
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That's not what will be built.

The "developer" doesn't even own the entire site. The south side of this site, moreover, is a lousy spot. It's at the entrance to the BB Tunnel and is surrounded by huge parking garages. It's a matter of time before the garages are gone though.
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Some foreshadowing
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City Announces Deal for Elementary School on Former Syms Site



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Four years after Downtown school advocates first pitched the idea of creating a school in the newly vacated Syms Clothing store site at 42 Trinity Pl., officials announced on Thursday that it will finally happen.

The new elementary school is expected to go at the bottom of a super-tall building that will rise where the Syms Clothing Store stood. This image, by FXFOWLE Architects, is an example of a possible tower on the site, but no final plans for the tower have been released.

The city’s School Construction Authority (SCA) said in a statement that it had reached the deal with the property’s owner, Trinity Place Holdings, which is expected to construct a super-tall residential tower on the site. A design for the “approximately” 476-seat elementary school in the base of the tower is anticipated to be ready by the beginning of this summer, according to the statement. No mention was made of when the school would open or begin construction.

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Another Lower Manhattan supertall. Bring it on!
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If a design is ready by summer, it would epic to see this rise along with 45 Broad, WTC3, and 125 Greenwich. 4 super talls for that area. Now we just need WTC2 to get a tenant, but I'm not expecting that project to surprise us. Too much let down already.

Theres a nice plateau of tower for the area that will help balance out the dominating effect that 1WTC has.

This and 1710 Broadway are full of suspense, but with Extell in the game (for 1710), we may not get renderings for a while.
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Trinity Place complex gets a new look — and a new name

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January 27, 2016

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Plans have been crystallized for the redevelopment of the former Syms complex at 28-42 Trinity Place, which will now be known as 77 Greenwich St.

The upcoming 500-foot-tall glass condominium tower will also have a new grammar school at its base, as well as 7,000 square feet of retail.

Despite other renderings and rumors that proclaimed the project as a super-tall structure of 1,000 feet, it will be just half that height and much less expensive to build, but still have river and harbor views.

“There were a lot of fun rumors,” says Trinity Place Holdings President and CEO Matthew Messinger.

The former Forest City exec is leading the Trinity team that will now move toward shovels in the ground for the 285,000-square-foot development.

Earlier this week, the School Construction Authority announced the deal to create a new 476-seat pre-K to fifth grade school, which will serve today’s local stroller set and ever-expanding downtown families. The school will be incorporated into the first nine stories in the concrete base of the tower as well as the adjacent landmarked Dickey House at 28-30 Trinity Place.

Inclusion of the school pushes the lowest residential floors to 150 feet so that every unit will have a water view, Messinger said.

Plans now call for a boutique building of roughly 85 units, although the unit mix will “bounce around modestly” as they tweak towards the family sized market.

FXFOWLE architects has designed what will be an LEED-rated building while minimalist Deborah Berke Partners is taking the lead on apartment and amenity spaces that are “warm and comfortable.”

A roof deck is in the mix, among other amenities. The lower portion will also have bike storage and a dog spa area. “I’ve been surprised at how many dogs are in the neighborhood,” Messinger observed.

Across the street, the Elizabeth Berger Plaza, named after the late head of the Downtown Alliance, is also being enlarged into a half-acre park as a tiny street is being demapped.

Messinger declined to discuss pricing, but given the ongoing demand, local super-tall competition and the project’s completion date likely in 2019, it will probably start well over $2,000 to $3,000 per square foot. The Marketing Directors will handle sales.

The precise design and tint of the glass outer wall structure is also in flux as Messinger meets with curtain wall architects. “Every time I look, there are technology changes,” he says.


28-42 Trinity Place will now be known as 77 Greenwich St.
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So we're looking at roughly 500 ft, not 1,000.
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That's a bummer. 500ft is nothing in Manhattan ...
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That's a bummer. 500ft is nothing in Manhattan ...
Yeah its a wasted opportunity. But at least the current tower looks quite decent. Shame this design couldn't be a super tall.
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That's a bummer. 500ft is nothing in Manhattan ...
For real, it won't even be visible in this area but at least it's a decent looking building.

While a wasted opportunity there are so many projects in NYC right now it's hard to get that upset.
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The new fight over the new school

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The city has finally named a site for a long-awaited elementary school for the Financial District after a years-long fight for space, but Downtowners aren’t declaring total victory yet. In fact, they’re preparing for a whole new battle over exactly what the new school will look like, aiming to maximize the rare opportunity to create Downtown classroom space, and make sure it will be enough.

“We really need to get the most out of this,” said Tricia Joyce, a parent and the co-chair of Community Board 1’s Youth and Education Committee. Days after a 476-seat school was announced for 77 Greenwich St., school advocates and local parents started drawing up their wish lists for more seats, larger facilities and even a middle-school expansion — all to satisfy Lower Manhattan’s staggering population growth, which they say the Dept. of Education is too slow to address.

Paul Hovitz, co-chair of CB1’s Youth and Education Committee, said that in the earlier struggle to get Spruce Street School into the Gehry Building, the community learned too late that simply securing a site is not the end of the battle for school seats.

“The mistake we made was being so happy we were getting the school there that we didn’t press for more floors and to have more than two classes in a grade — because two classes on a grade was so small,” he said. “By the time we realized, everything was set in stone.”

Joyce agreed that the challenge now is to secure greater community participation in designing the new Greenwich St. school. “We have learned a lot since Spruce Street School was approved and built, and we’ll be doing everything necessary to make sure we stay ahead of all the potential issues,” she said.

The Greenwich St. school, which will have an entrance on Trinity Pl., will be included within the new mixeduse development planned for the site of the former Syms discount clothing store between Rector and Edgar Sts., south of the World Trade Center.

The plan for the school is expected to be finalized by this summer, according to the School Construction

Authority and the developer said the project will be complete in 2019. “We’re very happy to hear the news,” said Wendy Chapman, a co-founder of the advocacy group Build Schools Now. “But of course we have concerns.

We have seen how dire the population growth is, we’re going to hope that the Deptartment of Education and the S.C.A. give the community input as to what the final outcome of this school is.” Chapman said she would like to see the school expanded to include a middle school, spanning grades K-8, or at least increase the number of seats — which she emphasized is always cheaper than building another school later on.
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Landmarks Requires Rethink Of Cantilevered Mixed-Use Tower At 77 Greenwich Street

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The proposed 500-foot-tall mixed-use building at 77 Greenwich Street (a.k.a. 42 Trinity Place) suffered a setback on Tuesday. The Landmarks Preservation Commission did not vote to approve its proposed cantilevered portions.

The proposed 35-story tower being developed by Trinity Place Holdings, which would have 85 condominiums on its upper portion and a 476-seat public school and 7,000 square feet of retail on its base, is as-of-right, except that there are three cantilevered pieces that jut out over a city individual landmark, which means the LPC would have to approve of that cantilevered portion.

That landmark is the Robert and Anne Dickey House at 67 Greenwich Street (a.k.a. 28-30 Trinity Place), with Edgar Street to its south. It was originally a three-and-a-half–story Federal style townhouse and was built between 1809 and 1810, with alterations in 1872 and a rear addition added in 1922. Among the alterations made over the years was the addition of a fourth floor and conversion to tenement use. It was designated an individual landmark in 2005.

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Looks classy from most angles, but WHAT is happening on that East side? Do I see a blank concrete wall?
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