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Old Posted Jun 24, 2004, 11:54 PM
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almost.........like modern, glassy twins. but fraternal twins in that they look different.
Different, but with similar peaks. In a sense, they are both sisters to the Freedom Tower (NY Times having almost the same exact groundbreaking), almost triplets. Except that the Freedom Tower is the mutated, excessively large one....
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 25, 2004, 1:22 AM
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err... i know that... now
i was talking about long time ago...
just admit it LeCom, you have no idea about anything in NY. some people just dont get it

     
     
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Noone posted renderings yet, so here are some for those who want to see the tower.

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SSP drawing by James Raymond:
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It's nice but it looks a little chunky.
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 25, 2004, 3:19 AM
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^But massive too, this thing will be a freakin giant!
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 25, 2004, 6:12 AM
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i wonder if they'll have anything on the crown. They could have an awesome observatory right in midtown looking down on Bryant park and straight to the Chrysler.
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 25, 2004, 12:30 PM
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But there already is an awesome observatory with views right down on Bryant Park and the Chrysler: it's called the ESB.
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Old Posted Jun 25, 2004, 12:48 PM
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But there already is an awesome observatory with views right down on Bryant Park and the Chrysler: it's called the ESB.
The ESB view is great, and looks out right over the park. But the view from the GE deck when it reopens, will be spectacular also. It will feature the ESB, BOA, Chrysler, NY Times, even the Freedom Tower.....


     
     
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When will that be???
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But there already is an awesome observatory with views right down on Bryant Park and the Chrysler: it's called the ESB.
of course the ESB is a great observatory. BOA could make theirs a ritzy one by having the whole rooftop be used instead of ESB's ring around the rooftop. They could but a swanky bar or an awesome nightclub up there. imagine a nightclub on the roof of that building with the glass crown lit up at night 80 feet high around you. just trivial possibilities but nevertheless cool.
     
     
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of course the ESB is a great observatory. BOA could make theirs a ritzy one by having the whole rooftop be used instead of ESB's ring around the rooftop. They could but a swanky bar or an awesome nightclub up there. imagine a nightclub on the roof of that building with the glass crown lit up at night 80 feet high around you. just trivial possibilities but nevertheless cool.
There will be no nightclub or swanky bar but it is planned to have a public roof-top garden than promises some amazing views.
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Old Posted Jun 26, 2004, 6:38 AM
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^lets hope that theres more room on this observatory then the ESB's, at least it could have that on it.
     
     
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Is this jsut speculation on everyone's part, or is the building actually palnned to have an obs deck? And when is the GE deck scheduled to be opened?
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Old Posted Jun 26, 2004, 6:35 PM
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We are going to have such cool decks soon enough with BOA, NYTimes, ESB, GE, Freedom Tower, God I can't wait!
     
     
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It's too bad that NYC doesn't have too many observation decks now b/c a lot of them closed down in the 1970's.
     
     
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Why was that? Was there dwindling demand in the 70's or was it some more sinister reason?
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Dunno. But there are some real good closed decks. Woolworth, AIG, Paramount, Williamsburgh Savings Bank, and kinda Chrysler.
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And when is the GE deck scheduled to be opened?
It has its own thread around here somewhere, I think in City Discussions. It was also mentioned that the GM building may get a deck as well....

Repairs and Reopening Planned for a Rockefeller Center Roof

By ANDREA ELLIOTT

Seventeen years after Rockefeller Center closed the historic observation decks atop 30 Rockefeller Plaza, developers plan to renovate the space and reopen it to the public, pending city approval.

The decks, which first opened to sightseers in 1933, rise as high as 850 feet above street level, offering panoramic views from the top two floors of the Art Deco building known as the RCA and more recently the G.E. Building. They were closed in 1986 when expansion of the Rainbow Room on the 65th floor cut off elevator access to them.

"This was one of the great attractions of Rockefeller Center historically," said Robert J. Speyer, senior managing director of Tishman Speyer Properties, one of the center's owners. "It ought to be restored and reopened for the world to see."

If approved by the Landmarks Preservation Commission, the project would be scheduled for completion in fall 2005, Mr. Speyer said.

He would not comment on the cost of the project. A public hearing before the commission is set for Nov. 25.

"The whole thing is very exciting," said Robert B. Tierney, chairman of the commission. "Rockefeller Center is such a gem and has such historical significance that we will look at this very, very carefully."

Because the building is a historic landmark one of about 1,200 in the city any plan to renovate it must be found appropriate by the commission, Mr. Tierney said.

"We look at the history of the landmark, the aesthetics," he said. "All kinds of factors come into play."

The proposal calls for a ground-floor entrance on West 50th Street. Elevators would lead to the 67th floor, which would feature a combination of food and retail services, and an observation deck encased by windows, Mr. Speyer said.

From there, visitors would be able to take escalators to the open-air observation deck on the 69th floor, where they would be greeted with views of Central Park. They would then be able to climb the stairs or take an elevator up a floor to another open deck for a 360-degree view that includes the Empire State Building, Times Square and the Hudson River.


The renovation plan includes restoring decorative limestone and cast aluminum fleur-de-lis panels, and installing new terra cotta tiles on some floors in the same size and color as the original tiles.

In recent years, the 67th floor was used as storage space, and the uppermost part of the building was closed.

"We are set to restore it back to its original use," Mr. Speyer said. "When you take over a landmark like Rockefeller Center, you want to strike a balance between restoration and innovation, and we think this plan threads that needle."

     
     
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That looks like an ocean liner floating through the ocean.

Anyway, it must offer some cool construction and completed views of Bofa and NYTT.
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 27, 2004, 6:59 PM
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That looks like an ocean liner floating through the ocean.

Anyway, it must offer some cool construction and completed views of Bofa and NYTT.
Not only that, but the top 3 levels are all observation decks...
     
     
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