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I wonder what happened to the horse sculpture on the roof. I can't see it getting tossed, and I also have a vague feeling I've seen that horse on top of some other building in LA or the Valley. Maybe a bar or restaurant. Perhaps someone else has some idea.

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I don't believe we have seen this very early view of the first (?) Lanfranco Building.


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This image is from

http://gutenberg.polytechnic.edu.na/...0-h.htm#i_145b

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You can see the later Lanfranco Building at 218-222 N. Main Street here:
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=21311
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I wonder if the horse was made of tin?
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below: I've been trying to find this same view on google-street-views, but I haven't had much luck. (I wanted to make sure those hideous apts. on the left are gone)



http://s147.photobucket.com/user/VIE...FRWY5.jpg.html

The caption is:
"El Monte Busway at Long Beach Freeway looking West before Construction 1960s"

.....but the Long Beach Freeway pretty much runs north and south, so I don't see how this view is looking west.
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"Arrow Chevrolet, 8th & Soto, Los Angeles."


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note the 12 cent hamburgers, far right--->





below: This massive building (one source says 80,000 sq. ft, another says 66,000 sq. ft.) is still standing. Today it is the Plaza Del Sol shopping mall.

-the building is so big it's rather difficult to capture on google street-view.

gsv


Interesting Los Angeles Times article on the Plaza Del Sol struggles as a mall in 1987.
http://articles.latimes.com/1987-03-..._plaza-del-sol




The one story tile-roof buildings (outlined in red below) are also still standing. (they're located on the northeast corner of Short Street and Boyle Avenue)


eBay


here's a view from Short street.

gsv

The shape reminds me of the early adobes. I'd love to know when they were built.


and here's a view from Boyle Avenue.

gsv

Like I mentioned before, the design is reminiscent of an adobe.

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I just came across a full-text PDF document containing an application by the L.A. Conservancy to have the Plaza district added to the National Register of Historic Places. The original part is dated 1972, but there seem to be several addenda added over the following years into the 1980s. There's at least some discussion for just about every building on the site, contributing to a count of 35 pages.

I haven't read it through yet, but I can't help wonder if this is when the last businesses were evicted, including La Esperanza? Does anyone have access to phone books or directories from 1970 to about 1974?

It wouldn't surprise me if this was the source document for the informational pamphlets the Park passed out to visitors in the 1970s and 80s.
Here's a little bit of background on Ezequiel Moreno: He was a baker in his native Mexico. He was born in 1896 in Guadalupe, Zaca, Mexico. Mr. Moreno came to the US in 1917 and initially settled in Arizona where he was listed in his WWI draft registration as a miner. By 1919 he is in Los Angeles when his daughter was born. He is listed in the 1940 Census as the owner of a restaurant. Mr. Moreno became a naturalized US citizen in 1942. He died in South Pasadena in 1976.

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Wyvernwood and Estrada Courts adjacent

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The shape reminds me of the early adobes. I'd love to know when they were built.
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1947 as eng(ineering) offices.


The neighborhood:

google maps

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While we're in the Pasadena area, I thought I'd go ahead and post this 1960s photograph just for fun.


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I'm guessing this was taken after the Rose Parade. (or perhaps before) -in other words; I have no idea.

What is that light-colored strip of land meandering down the mountainside? -is it an aqueduct cascade?

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The picture would have been taken in Victory Park where they bring the floats after the parade for viewing. The light strip on the mountain is a fire break/fire road
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"Arrow Chevrolet, 8th & Soto, Los Angeles."


eBay

note the 12 cent hamburgers, far right--->





below: This massive building (one source says 80,000 sq. ft, another says 66,000 sq. ft.) is still standing. Today it is the Plaza Del Sol shopping mall.

-the building is so big it's rather difficult to capture on google street-view.

gsv


Interesting Los Angeles Times article on the Plaza Del Sol struggles as a mall in 1987.
http://articles.latimes.com/1987-03-..._plaza-del-sol




The one story tile-roof buildings (outlined in red below) are also still standing. (they're located on the northeast corner of Short Street and Boyle Avenue)


eBay


here's a view from Short street.

gsv

The shape reminds me of the early adobes. I'd love to know when they were built.


and here's a view from Boyle Avenue.

gsv

Like I mentioned before, the design is reminiscent of an adobe.

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The County Assessor has a secondary build date of 1945 but the original build date is not there. They are listed as commercial property by the assessor and offices by real estates sites
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I don't believe we have seen this very early view of the first (?) Lanfranco Building.


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As horses go, here is another to ponder. Could it be related?


It is said that WJ Rooks was in Hollywood. 1906 Hollywood Directory lists him at Wilcox, south of Sunset blvd., "Home 261."

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I've been trying to find this same view on google-street-views, but I haven't had much luck. (I wanted to make sure those hideous apts. on the left are gone)


http://s147.photobucket.com/user/VIE...FRWY5.jpg.html

The caption is:
"El Monte Busway at Long Beach Freeway looking West before Construction 1960s"
This is about as close as I could get to the original angle.


GSV

I'm afraid "those hideous apts. on the left" are still there. They've had a makeover, but it doesn't help much.


GSV

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Source lists this image as an Orphanage/Asylum in Vista Del Mar, Palms area, 3200 Motor Ave, circa 1925. Vista Del Mar Family Services and Vista School are among the current occupants of the 3200 Motor Ave Address. Could there be a connection with a '27CD listing for 7619 Exposition Blvd., "Palms" ? Building permit for 7619 Exposition indicates '28 date.


http://collections.nhm.org/seaver-ce...&refirn=552253





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This is about as close as I could get to the original angle.



I'm afraid "those hideous apts. on the left" are still there. They've had a makeover, but it doesn't help much.


GSV
Fake pseudo Hacienda balconies to nowhere. The building actually looked better before.

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That article on the Alexandria 'wing' is sooo interesting. Thx for posting it Lwize.


Just a reminder of the opulence of the mighty Alexandria (amid all that grandeur is a porcelain spittoon).


http://www.homerlea.org/photoarchives5.htm

above: I'd like to see the light at the end of that chain at far right (obviously it's down in the lobby). Lobby pic anyone?





The magnificent stained glass in Palm Court (still in place in the old Alexandria ballroom)


http://bigorangelandmarks.blogspot.c...ria-hotel.html
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Interesting interview re Alexandria Hotel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEugZGBL-nU


Curious image purportedly from Alexandria Hotel featuring Fatty Arbuckle. Different sources peg this at 1913 and 1918. Seated to the right of FA is Adolph Zukor and Carl Laemmle. Other faces are familiar but their identities do not readily come to mind. (De Mille toward center of mirror?) Guessing Sam Behrendt is across the table sans headgear. Although this could be the Alexandria, the room does not have any of that Hotel's renowned opulence. The hats, aprons and lettering on mirror suggest this could have been a lodge meeting.


Beefsteak Dinner To Roscoe Arbuckle By His Friend Sam Behrendt, Alexandria Hotel


http://collections.nhm.org/seaver-ce...&refirn=751404




Sam Behrendt, who is mentioned above and whose collection of Photos is held at the Natural History Museum is second from the left, top row.
1896
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1916 J. Lasky (Famous Players), A. Zukoph, Goldwyn, C. De Mille and Kaufman
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ymyJtrqeDT...ufman.1947.jpg




J. Lasky and Arbuckle, circa 1920
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...ckle,_1920.jpg



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What is now known as Paramount Studios actually began in 1916 when Adolph Zukor merged his Famous Players Film Company with Lasky Films to form Famous Players-Lasky. A year later, Zukor took over Paramount Film Distribution and the new company was named Paramount Pictures.


92 year old Adolph Zukor in 1965
http://jpg1.lapl.org/00113/00113128.jpg



Although this1936 image of 5555 Melrose may be familiar to most, for some reason I do not think it has been posted on NLA.
http://www.30view.com/uploads/compan...udios-12-g.jpg http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics39/00069491.jpg





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I wonder if the horse was made of tin?
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below: I've been trying to find this same view on google-street-views, but I haven't had much luck. (I wanted to make sure those hideous apts. on the left are gone)



http://s147.photobucket.com/user/VIE...FRWY5.jpg.html

The caption is:
"El Monte Busway at Long Beach Freeway looking West before Construction 1960s"

.....but the Long Beach Freeway pretty much runs north and south, so I don't see how this view is looking west.
The apartments are still there, although with a new facade. Coords: 34.064639, -118.158344
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re: El Monte Busway




http://metroprimaryresources.info/40...-station/2745/

above: Pacific Electric streetcar track removal for El Monte Busway construction, early 1972.





below: Inspecting the model of the El Monte Busway Station Terminal. (well, half of the model actually..........it's a cut-a-way)


https://www.flickr.com/people/metrolibraryarchive/




below: The distinctively round bus terminal.


http://ptatransitauthority.blogspot....way-buses.html





aerial / date unknown

http://ptatransitauthority.blogspot....way-buses.html

The bus terminal was 11 miles due east of downtown Los Angeles.



the station itself.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/metrol...ive/2930789078






This is my favorite photograph of the bus station.


http://picssr.com/photos/25380437@N0...d=25380437@N04



I'll end with this nifty illustration.


https://www.flickr.com/photos/metrol...ive/2929932553



I'm outta' town until Monday. Have fun everyone!

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Who's the lady inspecting the model? She's a looker.
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Speaking of El Monte

Has anyone gotten a good look at the new bus terminal yet? Certainly there are some images online, as well as the VIP grand opening video on YouTube (in which the facility is pretty much empty). But I haven't seen anything yet that gives the feel of the place in typical conditions, or what the usual experience is of a passenger arriving or leaving at the station.

Although Metro says it's the largest bus-only facility west of Chicago, though it hardly seems possible in the photos.
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below: Inspecting the model of the El Monte Busway Station Terminal. (half of the model actually..........it's a cut-a-way)


https://www.flickr.com/people/metrolibraryarchive/
No idea of

But have to ask, how many times have you seen Superman, the movie, circa 1978?

Margot Kidder.
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Has anyone gotten a good look at the new bus terminal yet? Certainly there are some images online, as well as the VIP grand opening video on YouTube (in which the facility is pretty much empty). But I haven't seen anything yet that gives the feel of the place in typical conditions, or

Although Metro says it's the largest bus-only facility west of Chicago, though it hardly seems possible in the photos.
Where is this new Bus Terminal?
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This is the Warner-Elektra-Atlantic (WEA) office building in Burbank. It's Julius Shulman's "Job 6109: Hugh Gibbs and Don Gibbs, Warner-Elektra-Atlantic Corporation (Los Angeles County, Calif.),1982".
NB. I've omitted some of the exterior photos and all of the black & white ones.







The sign at the reception desk names it as the Joel M Friedman Building (see below). I'm not sure who thought that white lettering on an off-white background was a good idea!



Some more interior shots.









All from Getty Research Institute

The clipping below is from the Oct 17, 1981 edition of Billboard. It gives some information about what the building was used for, and who Joel M Friedman was.


books.google.com

A week later, Oct 24 1981, Billboard published this article about Joel M Friedman, or "JMF" as he was obviously known. I tried adjusting the contrast on this one, but kept losing the lower-left corner.


books.google.com

Now a Warner Bros office building, it still stands at 111 N Hollywood Way. That's the corner of W Olive Avenue, opposite Warner Bros' Studios. From laconservancy.org:
"...the Gibbs & Gibbs-designed Warner Bros. office building on North Hollywood Way is a deconstructed residential building expanded into a commercial high-rise.

Completed in 1981, this office building has a wood post-and-beam structural system like the classic Mid-Century Modern homes built by USC School of Architecture-trained architects like Carl Maston, Raymond Kappe, Ladd & Kelsey, and Buff & Hensman. The wood structural members are exaggerated, extending far beyond the building's dark-tinted glass walls, and feature exposed hardware."
I can't help feeling that the current paint scheme and abundance of trees detract from the original design.


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Where is this new Bus Terminal?
In El Monte, where it has replaced the old round one in the photo above. It does look rather interesting from the pictures I've seen, though those have mostly been limited to wide exteriors and bus bay close-ups. It's basically the eastern end of the Busway, though it also serves Greyhound and other carriers in addition to Metro.



(This is only a pre-construction rendering, but it's better than anything I can find of the finished structure, which is pretty close to it, anyway. And, not that I look at that tiny bus next to it, it's obviously bigger than I thought.
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