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Old Posted May 22, 2019, 2:42 AM
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A possible option for reinventing International Village Mall?

Vin, you may just Cream Your Jeans with this idea but this could help save International Village Mall with some serious reprogramming and advertising push from a better funded new owner. Converting one or two of the upper floors to an entirely open shopping floor with semi permanent open kiosks similar to a convention with one or two permanent walls per kiosk and smaller movable kiosks all with flexible lease terms. This would allow starting companies to quickly change the size of space they need if they want to experiment with expansion or need to scale back on footprint to ensure they can make a profit without needing to close their business. This would also be more of a draw than a conventional mall where stores often don't move or change around much for years as there would be constant change of layout and offerings. They could pair it with instagram opportunities as more of a draw for younger crowds.

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How a new mall in New York City is hoping to reverse the 'retail apocalypse'

Hudson Yards development has dedicated an entire floor to digital brands making their brick and mortar debut

By setting up his first physical store in the same building as big names like Coach, Kate Spade and H&M, Brian Berger, the co-founder of online menswear brand Mack Weldon, knew he was facing a major challenge.

"It's like showing up for your first game and it's the Super Bowl," said Berger, as he toured the company's location inside the Hudson Yards development in New York City. Hudson Yards is a joint venture of Related Properties and Oxford Properties, the real estate arm of the Ontario Municipal Employees Retirement System (OMERS) in Canada.

The new West Side neighbourhood features office towers, a hotel and a seven-storey shopping mall with more than 100 stores. The feature attraction is the Vessel, a 16-storey, walkable, Instagram-friendly public art structure.

Inside the mall, Mack Weldon isn't alone as it makes its first foray into bricks and mortar retail. While the first floor of the mall is dedicated to luxury brands such as Cartier and Fendi, most of the second floor is reserved for digitally native brands making the leap offline.

It's a targeted and deliberate move by the landlord, Related Companies, to attract shoppers in the midst of what some describe as a "retail apocalypse."

Vice-president Webber Hudson says the idea was to attract new shoppers by bringing online retailers into the mall. The hope is the web traffic those stores generate online will translate to increased foot traffic in the stores.

With malls hollowing out across America and closing signs increasingly popping up in storefronts, they needed to get creative to attract shoppers, he said.

"The whole revolution of what was happening online and how aggressive online buying was becoming, somewhat at the cost of bricks and mortar, was stunning and we couldn't ignore that."

Hudson says retailers that made it big online aren't as bound by the old conventions of in-store retail and in many cases offer more unique shopping experiences.

Yet, he admits the strategy is a calculated risk — and not every store will make it.

A bleak retail landscape

Among the brands that have set up shop alongside Mack Weldon are shoe company M. Gemi, men's clothier Rhone, home and lifestyle shop Batch, and b8ta, a store where shoppers can get a hands-on feel for dozens of tech products typically only found online.

They are swimming against a retail tsunami that's seen a record number of closures in recent years. Coresight Research, a global research firm, says so far in 2019, U.S. retailers have announced 6,130 store closures. That already exceeds the total of 5,864 for all of 2018.

Last year, it was large chains such as Sears, the U.S. chain of Toys "R" Us and Kmart at the crest of the wave. This year, Payless ShoeSource announced it is closing all 2,100 of its stores.

Meanwhile, other brands that aren't closing altogether are shrinking their retail footprint. Gap announced it would close about 200 Gap and Banana Republic stores in the next three years.

CoStar Group, which tracks commercial real estate, says 2018 was a record year for announced store closures in the U.S. It found that 155 million square feet of retail space was announced for closure, compared to 102 million square feet in 2017.

Faced with this grim reality, landlords must find new ways to keep shoppers coming out to their stores.

"I think landlords are really looking toward, 'How do we reverse this trend? How do we get ahead of our competitors and making a more curated and experiential product?'" said Victor Rodriguez, a senior market analyst with CoStar Group.

This has led major landlords such as Related Companies and Brookfield Properties to reach out to digital brands, offering flexible leases in hopes they can translate the success they've found online to the storefront.

The money is still in stores

Russ Winer, a marketing professor at New York University, says established online brands such as mattress-maker Casper and eyeglass company Warby Parker were the first to start the trend. Casper announced last year it would open 200 stores, while Warby Parker opened its first store in 2013 and now aims to have close to 100 by the end of the year.

The latest version of the trend has bigger developers seeking out smaller brands to help rejuvenate their retail offerings.

Winer says the move offline is also beneficial for the digital brands. When it comes to acquiring customers, it can actually be cheaper, he said. The banner ads and discounts used to attract shoppers online can be more expensive than a shopper discovering a storefront.

And despite the hollowing out of malls and the public perception of online shopping's success, people still buy most of their goods in stores.

"Still 90 per cent of all retail sales take place in a physical store," Winer said. That number is even higher in Canada, where Statistics Canada says online sales, while rising steadily, still only make up about three per cent of overall retail sales.
Saviours of retail?

Rodriguez says what's happening at Hudson Yards will be closely watched in the industry, especially in New York City, where malls typically struggle because people prefer shopping along streets like 5th Avenue or in fashionable neighbourhoods like SoHo.

"This is going to be the proving ground," Rodriguez said. "Are those online retailers the way to go in the future and are landlords going to accommodate them?"

Marketing professor Russ Winer says no matter what happens, don't expect these smaller digital brands to start filling up malls across suburban America. He says these kinds of stores need dense urban areas with lots of residents and tourists to succeed.

Malls still require large anchor tenants, he says, so landlords need those stores to adapt to the new retail environment. That involves everything from downsizing the size of their stores, improving the customer experience, and modernizing the kinds of information they gather about their customers, he said.

"I think physical retail is here to stay. I think the pressure is on J.C. Penney and Macy's and some of the other physical retailers to become more relevant in today's world."

Brian Berger at Mack Weldon says they don't plan on a massive expansion across the United States, and instead will be opportunistic about where they open any future stores.
New kids, new data

Back at Hudson Yards, the shopping area has been open for almost two months. Across from Mack Weldon sits another born-online brand, Italian footwear company M. Gemi.

The company has done pop-up shops before, so brand director Heather Kaminetsky says they know the benefits of physical retail.

"We actually find that customers that shop online and shop within our physical spaces will spend more over their lifetime."

The key to success, she says, lies in the data they gather both online and in the store. They can use the information to determine everything from what shoes to stock to where to place them in the store.

Rodriguez says that data may be the difference that allows the new kids on the retail block to thrive where legacy retailers are failing.

"I think they just know how to use it better. They were born online. This is

Berger says online brands typically see a 20 to 30 per cent uptick in web sales in areas where they've set up a physical space.

"[Customers] come in, they have a three-dimensional experience — they're seeing, feeling, and touching the product. That can't be replicated and can't be undervalued."
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Old Posted May 22, 2019, 3:55 AM
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^^ Typical apple and oranges comparison that has no basis in reality.
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Old Posted May 22, 2019, 3:57 AM
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^^ Typical apple and oranges comparison that has no basis in reality.

Please expand on that.
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Old Posted May 22, 2019, 4:36 AM
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Please expand on that.
I don't know where to begin.
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Old Posted May 22, 2019, 5:04 AM
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I visited Real Canadian Superstore at Metrotown yesterday.

Holy crap I’ve never seen such an insane grocery store in my life. Way more crowded than any store I’ve been to in Toronto.

Why is it so busy? Is there a lack of grocery stores in Burnaby?
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Old Posted May 22, 2019, 5:25 AM
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I visited Real Canadian Superstore at Metrotown yesterday.

Holy crap I’ve never seen such an insane grocery store in my life. Way more crowded than any store I’ve been to in Toronto.

Why is it so busy? Is there a lack of grocery stores in Burnaby?
There are a few other grocery stores within walking distance of that Superstore. It's because the mall is so busy - people will go there to shop at a few stores and pick up groceries at the same time.
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Old Posted May 22, 2019, 6:17 AM
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It's also a downtown location easily accessible to Skytrain so very popular with people that utilize transit a lot. Every time I have been there its been a gong show with every check out open and very long line ups. They could probably open another store somewhere within the Metrotown town centre with for example the Loblaws or another banner that PC has and spread out the crowds a little.

If No-frills does indeed open a new store in Kings Cross Development that will also help to have people shop there a little.
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Old Posted May 22, 2019, 8:10 AM
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.. and they still do so well even though Metropolis also has a T&T Supermarket and a Wal-Mart Supercentre.
So there are essentially 3 supermarkets in that mall.
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.. and they still do so well even though Metropolis also has a T&T Supermarket and a Wal-Mart Supercentre.
So there are essentially 3 supermarkets in that mall.
Also a PriceSmart at Station Square, Save-On at Willingdon and Wholesale at Royal Oak.


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It's also a downtown location easily accessible to Skytrain so very popular with people that utilize transit a lot. Every time I have been there its been a gong show with every check out open and very long line ups. They could probably open another store somewhere within the Metrotown town centre with for example the Loblaws or another banner that PC has and spread out the crowds a little.

If No-frills does indeed open a new store in Kings Cross Development that will also help to have people shop there a little.
It really depends on when you're there - evenings and weekends are busier than weekday days. Even then you'll get busy times and lulls.

The latest says it'll be a Buy Low at Kings Crossing. Anyway there's a Save-On over there too, so I doubt adding a grocery store there will have much of an impact on how busy any of the grocery stores at Metrotown are.
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Old Posted May 22, 2019, 8:00 PM
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I visited Real Canadian Superstore at Metrotown yesterday.

Holy crap I’ve never seen such an insane grocery store in my life. Way more crowded than any store I’ve been to in Toronto.

Why is it so busy? Is there a lack of grocery stores in Burnaby?
I have to say it's the mall synergy that attracts the crowd to the Superstore at Metrotown. It's like a one-stop-shop centre. Why go to the Superstore at, say, Marine Drive when you can do so much more at the one in Metropolis?

Put any large grocery store or supermarket in a good city centre mall and it will always be successful.
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Old Posted May 22, 2019, 8:29 PM
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Vin, you may just Cream Your Jeans with this idea but this could help save International Village Mall with some serious reprogramming and advertising push from a better funded new owner. Converting one or two of the upper floors to an entirely open shopping floor with semi permanent open kiosks similar to a convention with one or two permanent walls per kiosk and smaller movable kiosks all with flexible lease terms. This would allow starting companies to quickly change the size of space they need if they want to experiment with expansion or need to scale back on footprint to ensure they can make a profit without needing to close their business. This would also be more of a draw than a conventional mall where stores often don't move or change around much for years as there would be constant change of layout and offerings. They could pair it with instagram opportunities as more of a draw for younger crowds.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/retail...ands-1.5131324
Agreed. Creativity is a must to make modern retail centres work. The most important thing is to have products that people want and find attractive enough for them to make it there, instead of having to wait it out to get them online. Another thing is the provision of food. For instance, everyone eats, so if the management at International Village can put in massive food halls at the mall, many people will actually find the time to travel there for it. One other factor is convenience: International Village does have that, being right next to the Stadium skytrain station. An attractive and safe place makes a huge difference as well. Currently the mall is still quite sketchy with DTES close by. To counter that, there should also be more places for work around the neighbourhood to offset the urban decay.

The scale of the Hudson Yard's development, combined with some of the project's aesthetics, is itself an architectural marvel that can pull in the crowds. The planners have the foresight to put in lots of residential and work spaces, and therefore the place will never be completely dead any time of the day. I don't see something like that ever built in our City. It's all about the mentality. Perhaps in Toronto or Montreal? Or even Surrey in 20 years' time?


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I have to say it's the mall synergy that attracts the crowd to the Superstore at Metrotown. It's like a one-stop-shop centre. Why go to the Superstore at, say, Marine Drive when you can do so much more at the one in Metropolis?

Put any large grocery store or supermarket in a good city centre mall and it will always be successful.
And yet there will be people like me that will actively go to the Grandview or Marine Drive locations even if I was already at Metrotown earlier in the day because I don't want the added stress and annoyance of dealing with crazy crowds. It cuts both ways.
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And yet there will be people like me that will actively go to the Grandview or Marine Drive locations even if I was already at Metrotown earlier in the day because I don't want the added stress and annoyance of dealing with crazy crowds. It cuts both ways.
Yeah Me too it's all about slinking around the noise & hassle.
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A&W will open at Translink’s retail location at Joyce-Collingwood station.
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And yet there will be people like me that will actively go to the Grandview or Marine Drive locations even if I was already at Metrotown earlier in the day because I don't want the added stress and annoyance of dealing with crazy crowds. It cuts both ways.
Either you live close by there, or you are not really a transit-rider, or both. You also probably drive everywhere. It's true that the Superstore at Metrotown can be overwhelming. Sometimes I wouldn't even bother if I am only getting one or two items.
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And yet there will be people like me that will actively go to the Grandview or Marine Drive locations even if I was already at Metrotown earlier in the day because I don't want the added stress and annoyance of dealing with crazy crowds. It cuts both ways.
Ditto.

Though I generally avoid Metrotown altogether - its hectic on another level.
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Chapters Indigo news... I'm not really surprised.

https://business.financialpost.com/n...tive-direction
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Old Posted May 31, 2019, 9:30 AM
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Hmmm.
To me, their "general merchandise" = "impulse buys".
Probably not the best business plan.
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Chapters Indigo news... I'm not really surprised.

https://business.financialpost.com/n...tive-direction
Nobody should expect one category to grow at 20-30% for years. You always reach a plateau.
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They are bringing in a new creative person/director to revamp that category. It is a little stagnant, basically the same ideas season after season. Needs a retooling.
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