Canada................post fossil fuels.

[TorontoDrew]

Meanwhile in Ontario the conservatives continue to screw the environment.

Doug Ford government spent $231M to scrap green energy projects
Mike Crawley · CBC News · Posted: Nov 19, 2019 1:01 PM ET | Last Updated: 3 hours ago

Provincial documents show the Ford government spent more than $230 million to cancel renewable energy projects that included a partially-built wind farm in a cabinet minister's riding.

The spending was revealed Tuesday in question period by the opposition NDP, who accused the Ford government of throwing away money on scrapping energy projects as the Liberal government did earlier in the decade.

The province's public accounts for 2018-19 show spending of $231 million by the Ministry of Energy on unexplained "other transactions."


Full article here: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toron...lion-1.5364815

[ssiguy]

One good thing about the NDP holding the balance of pwoer is that they will demand much more stringent environmental laws than we have now. They will want to see CONCRETE plans of how to phase out carbon emissions from Canada and not some nebulous goals of cutting emissions by a certain point by a certain time with no actual plans on how to get there. Such things could include a strict timeline for phasing out all internal combustion engines by 2040 which BC and most of Europe is already committed to and phasing out alll non-green power generation by 2030. 17% of all Alberta's GHG emissions come from electrical production which is nothing short of scandalous considering Alberta has had gobs of money to do it ages ago.

[kwoldtimer]

Originally Posted by ssiguy

One good thing about the NDP holding the balance of pwoer is that they will demand much more stringent environmental laws than we have now. They will want to see CONCRETE plans of how to phase out carbon emissions from Canada and not some nebulous goals of cutting emissions by a certain point by a certain time with no actual plans on how to get there. Such things could include a strict timeline for phasing out all internal combustion engines by 2040 which BC and most of Europe is already committed to and phasing out alll non-green power generation by 2030. 17% of all Alberta's GHG emissions come from electrical production which is nothing short of scandalous considering Alberta has had gobs of money to do it ages ago.

"A" balance of power would be more accurate.

[s13]

I bet liberals will try to appeal to more moderates to grow their base by ignoring NDP. All they have to do is threaten Trans Mountain and conservatives play ball. The optics of just working with NDP will be a deathknell to areas in Ontario they barely clung to last election.

[jawagord]

And the “believers” continue to believe, against all contrary evidence that the world is ending its reliance on fossil fuels. Reality check folks, not happening in your lifetime.

Instead of spending fortunes on intermittent, unreliable wind and solar to limit fossil fuel use, Canada should be investing in infrastructure to mitigate against the inevitable weather events that cause floods, droughts, fires, heat waves, cold snaps, freezing rain, these things will reoccur regardless of climate change.

The world's major fossil fuel producers are set to bust global environmental goals with excessive coal, oil and gas extraction in the next decade, the United Nations and research groups said on Wednesday in the latest warning over climate crisis.

The report reviewed specific plans from 10 countries, including Canada, China and the United States, as well as trends for the rest of the world and estimated that global fossil fuel production by 2030 would be at levels between 50 to 120 per cent over Paris Agreement targets.
The gap was largest for coal, with countries planning to produce 150 per cent more in 2030 than would be consistent with limiting warming to 2 C, and 280 per cent more than would limit warming to 1.5 C.

"The continued expansion of fossil fuel production — and the widening of the global production gap — is underpinned by a combination of ambitious national plans, government subsidies to producers, and other forms of public finance," the report said.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/f...hoot-1.5365974

[cairnstone]

Originally Posted by Chadillaccc

Alberta was supposed to build a two-reactor CANDU station back in the early 2000s. The only provinces without significant hydroelectric potential are Alberta and Saskatchewan, hence our reliance on what we've got (the dirty shit). It would have been great if the nuclear project hadn't been shot down.

The reactor was based on it being attached to a new mine and power was going to be the by product as steam generation was the main thing that was wanted. So that it could be injected in huge volume for extraction. Like many schemes this one never moved past a slow news day

[Jamaican-Phoenix]

I know hydrogen is possible in Alberta, but isn't geothermal viable as well? It would also be less of a "leap" in terms of retraining oil field workers.

[ssiguy]

Jawagord...........I find you inability to understand the inevitable quite shocking and, much to the detriment of Albertans, also quite popular.

Yes, for the forseeable future we will always need oil. Oil isn't just for transportation but a plethora of things from food to clothing to plastics to fertilizer to industry and there is nothing really wrong with that as long as we them out of our air & water. Of course transportation & electrical production does make up nearly half of world consumption meaning demand will fall as those needs are quickly phased out. That will suppress prices indefinately and only the cheapest production methods will be financially viable and the oil sands definately doesn't qualify.

Oil prices will remain suppressed and decline over time making high cost production methods like oil sands uncompetitive. Think about it, oil consumption worlwide is about to peak yet prices are still low. This reality is made even more pronounced when you consider that one of the biggest exporters, Venezuela, is essentially out of the market. That will eventually change and then even more oil will be gushing onto world markets in an ever declining demand environment. What you fail to comphrehend about this is truly beyond me.