The free press article said 1.2 billion over 10 years, so very well could be the same one. The number of permanent jobs wouldn't be that many though. Regardless, Facebook said it was government privacy laws that nixed the project so, nothing that can be done from a local level about that.
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This officially confirms the whole mismanagement of the CentrePort development as an embarrassment and disappointment for the Province, the City, and the entire country of Canada. Whether the privacy law was an issue, or NOT, the fact that this mess caused a MAJOR tenant like facebook to 'move on' really hurts.
That image of the partially built rail overpass in the middle of nowhere is going to be the symbol of failure for years to come as the disappointments continue to mount.
Sorry for the negative attitude, but I just lost all remaining faith I had in the Provincial and Civic governments.
Relect Sam Katz, re-elect the NDP, and reassert Phil Sheegl's 'parking pass' for the city hall loading dock?
Yep, thats exactly what will happen.
I hate to say it, because I really don't like the alternatives, but this Province is in need of a change of government as much as the city is.
I meant what are people going to do about showing their ire about how Centre Port is being managed? Surely there must be some ways to start a grassroots movement to let Sam and Greg know how much trouble they are causing.
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I meant what are people going to do about showing their ire about how Centre Port is being managed? Surely there must be some ways to start a grassroots movement to let Sam and Greg know how much trouble they are causing.
Yes, I know -- just getting the last of the cynicism out...
And yes, I hope that enough people are following this to realize the magnitude of this loss for the rest of the project. Large, recognizable anchor tenants draw other tenants (I.e. the Industrial version of the IKEA effect).
If the Tories and Libs need some more ammo to attack the NDP, here it is...
It never had any kind of a plan, it started without and remains without a major tenant. The entire concept of the thing never amounted to any more than "let's spend this big pile of money on something". How in the heck would anyone think something like could succeed?
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Originally Posted by Shinook
I meant what are people going to do about showing their ire about how Centre Port is being managed?
Nothing. I bet less than 1/10 of 1% of the electorate even know this thing exists. Nobody cares.
Yes, I know -- just getting the last of the cynicism out...
And yes, I hope that enough people are following this to realize the magnitude of this loss for the rest of the project. Large, recognizable anchor tenants draw other tenants (I.e. the Industrial version of the IKEA effect).
If the Tories and Libs need some more ammo to attack the NDP, here it is...
I was going to go on a rant after reading both the WFP articles, and the speculation about it's move to Iowa. The loss of an 80+ billion $ corporation, expanding here is pretty sad my friend. I've just gotten pretty numb..to these announcements. So I'll just bold your post on how I feel. Anybody saying this is unimportant or irrelevent is well...nevermind.
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My boss's Son is going to be running in the next Provincial election with the Liberal Party. He's very upset about this development, and the general mismanagement of the whole situation. I hope he'll bring this up where he has a chance to debate the other party members in his riding, but that's the only real voice I can lend a few words too.
You're right, 1/10 of a percent probably even know this exists.
The article says "primarily by the City of Winnipeg's refusal to extend water and sewer services to the Rosser lands". I thought the city was unable to extend water services, not that they refused. Am I missing something?
Yes you are.
Remember this is a Dan Lett article. This "refusal" spin will be trotted out during the NDP's election campaign and the blame can be placed squarely on the City. Mark my words.
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Canstar Community News -
Possibility of Rosser annexation resurfaces in water dispute
By: Andrea Geary Posted: 05/10/2013 1:00 AM
Winnipeg mayor Sam Katz recently suggested that annexing a section of the RM of Rosser might be the quickest way to allow large-scale development in CentrePort’s Brookside Industrial Park West to proceed.
this did get the attention of one of the worlds largest ipv6 isp's to start expanding its network here... http://www.he.net/
I scanned thier website and do see connections running from Montreal > Winnipeg >Calgary, but are you talking other expansion? I believe it did say they have 2 Data Centers in the US.
Is thier talk of expanding this to Manitoba? (data center) or some kind of major hub here, curious.
I scanned thier website and do see connections running from Montreal > Winnipeg >Calgary, but are you talking other expansion? I believe it did say they have 2 Data Centers in the US.
Is thier talk of expanding this to Manitoba? (data center) or some kind of major hub here, curious.
Looking at this PDF document, it looks like they're using a data center called "Global Server Centre" on 167 Lombard Ave, Winnipeg, MB R3B 0V3
I never did think the Facebook data center would be a good fit for Centerport due to the cost of extending high cap fiber to the site.
Most of the fiber Point of Presence (pop) in Winnipeg are all in the Portage and Main area due to the MTS Portage Ave east and the old CN/CP communications (now MTS/Allstream) buildings having connections to the lines running down the CN and CP rail lines. The Canwest building has a major POP as does the Grain Exchange (at least 2) and the building at 1 Wesley has at least 1.
Do you know if there is any located in Headingly? Because apparently they were very interested in that area as well. So maybe the lack of POP pushed them from Centreport to Headingly.
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Do you know if there is any located in Headingly? Because apparently they were very interested in that area as well. So maybe the lack of POP pushed them from Centreport to Headingly.
The site they were essentially one signature away from was in Headingley close to the new Women's Prison. The lack of water servicing in CentrePort was the reason they walked away from that site.
....regarding if it was a good fit or not, i have trouble believing a billion dollar investment in the capitol region area is not a good thing. The press alone with having one of the largest data centres in the world plus having Facebook's name on it would do wonders for the marketing of our region.
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