Austin | Sabine (708 E 12th) | 430 Ft | 39 Flrs | Proposed - Page 2

427MM · #21 Posted **Aug 30, 2022, 3:04 AM**

Hope it blocks the wildly bright new Trammel Crow Alexan

Urbannizer · #22 Posted **Sep 6, 2022, 7:21 PM**

This one may be known as Sabine Tower. 660’ for the crane:

https://oeaaa.faa.gov/oeaaa/external...52241072&row=0

The ATX · #23 Posted **Sep 8, 2022, 8:37 PM**

It is the Sabine Tower now with 38 floors. I'm looking forward to the renderings.

The ATX · #24 Posted **Sep 8, 2022, 8:41 PM**

This is a hotel with 536 rooms.

GoldenBoot · #25 Posted **Sep 8, 2022, 9:30 PM**

...and if I'm reading the elevations correctly, it's 438'6" tall.

GoldenBoot · #26 Posted **Sep 8, 2022, 9:39 PM**

Correct. 431'6" + 7' = 438'6"

The site is sloped. Level one's entry is 7 feet below average grade.

myBrain · #27 Posted **Sep 8, 2022, 9:45 PM**

Wow, that's a lot of not-glass. To join the other not-glass towers in the immediate area. Will be interesting to see what the facade materials and color end up being. Hopefully not just stucco.

We vs us · #28 Posted **Sep 8, 2022, 10:21 PM**

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This is a hotel with 536 rooms.

Holy shit!

EDIT: and that's no Homewood Suites! At 536 rooms that's almost certainly another group house. Room count is just a little smaller than the Marriott Downtown.

drummer · #29 Posted **Sep 9, 2022, 3:50 PM**

That area of 35 is going to feel like a canyon itself soon.

The ATX · #30 Posted **Sep 9, 2022, 4:05 PM**

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That area of 35 is going to feel like a canyon itself soon.

And that's without even including all the eventual Brackenridge and HealthSouth site towers.

drummer · #31 Posted **Sep 9, 2022, 4:35 PM**

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And that's without even including all the eventual Brackenridge and HealthSouth site towers.

That's what I mean. Lot of growth already and it doesn't hold a candle to what's coming.

We vs us · #32 Posted **Oct 25, 2022, 4:54 PM**

Hey circling back, where did this get mentioned as a hotel? The site plan (which is expired) mentions it as multifamily.

The ATX · #33 Posted **Oct 25, 2022, 5:04 PM**

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Hey circling back, where did this get mentioned as a hotel? The site plan (which is expired) mentions it as multifamily.

That info was in the plans when the City's Development Services Dept. had their big leak on 9/8. The verbiage was "536 keys" which would refer to hotel rooms. But all the info was removed from public access that night.

Edit: When the leak happened I was trying to take screen sheets of the elevations for as many of the big projects that I could get. But the City shut down access before I could go back and download any of the drawing sets and other info.

We vs us · #34 Posted **Oct 25, 2022, 10:06 PM**

Ah right, forgot it was a leak.

I asked my contacts at Visit Austin about this one, and no one had heard anything. Which isn't really surprising . . . we usually know about stuff before they do. But I'd forgotten this wasn't public knowledge when we found it. I wanted to send some of the links their way but none of them (including the tower crane request) mention it as a hotel.

EDIT: also, the drawings show balconies for each unit . . . and that's not normal hotel design protocol, TBH. No one's building 'em with balconies anymore.

The ATX · #35 Posted **Oct 25, 2022, 10:21 PM**

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Originally Posted by We vs us

Ah right, forgot it was a leak.

I asked my contacts at Visit Austin about this one, and no one had heard anything. Which isn't really surprising . . . we usually know about stuff before they do. But I'd forgotten this wasn't public knowledge when we found it. I wanted to send some of the links their way but none of them (including the tower crane request) mention it as a hotel.

EDIT: also, the drawings show balconies for each unit . . . and that's not normal hotel design protocol, TBH. No one's building 'em with balconies anymore.

Agree on the balconies. So I'm thinking the renderings are not the current ones or the project changed from hotel to residential. I didn't get a chance to catch the dates on any of the info to see what is most recent.

agsatx88 · #36 Posted **Nov 17, 2022, 5:06 PM**

Site plan for this one had expired but was resubmitted yesterday.

https://abc.austintexas.gov/public-s...rtyrsn=1114392

Edit: The proposed land use in the application is still MF (like in the original application) not hotel which is interesting.

agsatx88 · #37 Posted **Dec 16, 2022, 12:22 AM**

This one may be gaining two floors. AE Design Intake states "40-story high-rise residential with ground floor retail".

https://abc.austintexas.gov/public-s...rtyrsn=1114392

The ATX · #38 Posted **Dec 18, 2022, 8:27 PM**

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Originally Posted by agsatx88

Site plan for this one had expired but was resubmitted yesterday.

https://abc.austintexas.gov/public-s...rtyrsn=1114392

Edit: The proposed land use in the application is still MF (like in the original application) not hotel which is interesting.

The proposed use was changed to hotel on the re-submitted site plan.

We vs us · #39 Posted **Dec 19, 2022, 3:52 PM**

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The proposed use was changed to hotel on the re-submitted site plan.

Verrrrry interesting. As I said before, no one with the city that I have contacts with has any clue about this project. The CVB usually relies on formal reporting from a reputable third party, so that they can report out reliable info, and that third party doesn’t know about this one yet. We’re, as always, way ahead of the authorities

Will be really interested to see what they do with the balconies.

The ATX · #40 Posted **Dec 20, 2022, 4:49 PM**

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Originally Posted by We vs us

Verrrrry interesting. As I said before, no one with the city that I have contacts with has any clue about this project. The CVB usually relies on formal reporting from a reputable third party, so that they can report out reliable info, and that third party doesn’t know about this one yet. We’re, as always, way ahead of the authorities

Will be really interested to see what they do with the balconies.

My guess is that the project was originally planned as residential hence the balconies and later changed to hotel. That would also explain the mixed info in the listed uses.