Federal Government & Politics II

[MonctonRad]

Originally Posted by Marshsparrow

Or conservative nightmare - anyone other than Trudeau or Freeland will give Pierre (I have no platform or policy or have done anything in 19 years) a run for their money... did you see M Lantsman on CTV - she couldn't even answer a question when asked 3x what a Conservative govt would do about the capital gains tax changes introduced by the Liberals - would you keep it or repeal it... axe the gax, make everything affordable, rage, rage rage - nothing about what they would actually do - what a bunch of clowns.

As has been pointed out on innumerable occasions, there would be virtually no upside to PP or any of his minions to elaborate on policy options to the Liberals at this point. To do so would only be to give the Liberals some ammunition to throw at them. If PP promised to reverse the capital gains changes right now, it would only allow JT to crow about how the Conservatives are the party of the rich and would let all the poor people in the country starve in the streets after taking over.

[Marshsparrow]

Originally Posted by MonctonRad

As has been pointed out on innumerable occasions, there would be virtually no upside to PP or any of his minions to elaborate on policy options to the Liberals at this point. To do so would only be to give the Liberals some ammunition to throw at them. If PP promised to reverse the capital gains changes right now, it would only allow JT to crow about how the Conservatives are the party of the rich and would let all the poor people in the country starve in the streets after taking over.

If the election is indeed Oct 2025 - I think Cdns will be expecting some clarity... this was a terrible interview for Lantsman (she's usually effective)...

https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/cons...ange-1.6855455

[Hawrylyshyn]

Originally Posted by Marshsparrow

If the election is indeed Oct 2025 - I think Cdns will be expecting some clarity... this was a terrible interview for Lantsman (she's usually effective)...

https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/cons...ange-1.6855455

Do opposition parties ever put out a detailed platform/plan 1.5 years before the next expected election? I'd imagine more detail will be provided 1) If an election is called early or 2) when we get closer to October 2025.

[Dartguard]

Originally Posted by Marshsparrow

If the election is indeed Oct 2025 - I think Cdns will be expecting some clarity... this was a terrible interview for Lantsman (she's usually effective)...

https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/cons...ange-1.6855455

Hmm, here is a Youtube video of PP last September in Vancouver with some Housing idea's that he would implement. Its about 28 minutes but skipping through the French is easier. Most of the idea's stated have since been stolen and in that Liberal way Billions in borrowed dollars have been announced for Conservative idea's. Sorry Marsh the Liberal braintrust is out of imagination, money and time.If you want to know what the Conservatives plans are get the P.M. to call an election. Let Canadians decide.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etmvFqp9FNM

[Truenorth00]

Originally Posted by Marshsparrow

If the election is indeed Oct 2025 - I think Cdns will be expecting some clarity... this was a terrible interview for Lantsman (she's usually effective)...

https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/cons...ange-1.6855455

The polls show that Canadians don't agree with what you think they expect. Again, there's no obligation at all for political parties to present anything at all. They do so to win votes and support. If that's happening without a platform, why would they change. If it works....

[Marshsparrow]

Originally Posted by Truenorth00

The polls show that Canadians don't agree with what you think they expect. Again, there's no obligation at all for political parties to present anything at all. They do so to win votes and support. If that's happening without a platform, why would they change. If it works....

Not answering questions, bashing journalists and most likely trying to get out of any of the debates (like he did during the CPC leadership race) do not build confidence and trust...

[shreddog]

Originally Posted by Marshsparrow

nothing about what they would actually do - what a bunch of clowns.

Yeah, too bad they couldn't be more like JT nd the Gang, who bck in 2014 (12+ months the election) focused his policy on whipping out male genitals.

Opposition policy comes out when the writ is dropped ... always has, always will be.

[shreddog]

Originally Posted by Marshsparrow

If the election is indeed Oct 2025 - I think Cdns will be expecting some clarity... this was a terrible interview for Lantsman (she's usually effective)...

https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/cons...ange-1.6855455

When did the LPC announce their policies in support of the 2015 election? Links please.

[shreddog]

Originally Posted by Marshsparrow

Not answering questions, bashing journalists and most likely trying to get out of any of the debates (like he did during the CPC leadership race) do not build confidence and trust...

Man it must be excruciating for the LPC to be trailing so far behind such an incompentant fool like PP. I do wonder, if he really is that bad, what must that say about JT and the Gang if the plurarilty of Canadians prefer the CPC over the LPC?

[ssiguy]

Originally Posted by casper

It comes down to priorities.

The JT Liberal governments have placed the priorities clearly on the next generation by focusing on ensuring we have a clean plant, and successful clean economy for future generations. The focus on children is also clear in past years. This budget was very focused on housing for those starting a family.

While most of us think they should be spending on defence, it comes with the reality that budgets don't balance themselves. Just now housing is the priority.

You are quite right, it does come down to priorities and Trudeau's have been catastrophic for the country.

It was Trudeau who opened the floodgates to immigration that has led to our housing crisis in the first place. It was Trudeau that has doubled our rental rates, real estate costs, and the national debt in just 8 years. It was Trudeau that has raised our taxes and imported cheap labour that has kept our wages suppressed and having the lowest productivity growth of the G7 since he took office. It is Trudeau that has caused the number of Canadians having to go to the Food Bank every month to soar to nearly 2 million. It was Trudeau that refused to do anything about our housing problems as ""housing is a provincial matter" until a year ago when e started plunging in the polls. It was Trudeau that talked about the environment and carbon taxes as the way to help our environment until he started to plunge in support in AC and then gave them a pass on oil, the most polluting form of heating. It was Trudeau who has saddled our future generations with a $1.2 TRILLION national debt that young people are going to have to pay for.

Yes, Trudeau has his priorities set for the next generation and clearly, he doesn't give a damn about them.

[Marshsparrow]

Originally Posted by shreddog

Man it must be excruciating for the LPC to be trailing so far behind such an incompentant fool like PP. I do wonder, if he really is that bad, what must that say about JT and the Gang if the plurarilty of Canadians prefer the CPC over the LPC?

The plurality gang want a change, want things fixed and are tired... I doubt the majority of Cdns prefer a Conservative fix... I guess if we go on track record - Harper, Ambrose, Scheer, OToole and Bergen and now Poilievre haven't had the capacity to rid us of Trudeau... talk about leadership revolving door!

[whatnext]

So...how does someone get this much money out of China??

Douglas Todd: Billionaire owner of three B.C. malls bares soul on China, scandals and her ‘horrific’ upbringing
Analysis: An attempt to discover what “the wealthiest woman in Vancouver,” Weihong Liu, plans to do with the Tsawwassen shopping centre reveals much more.
Author of the article: Douglas Todd
Published Apr 18, 2024

Dubbed “the wealthiest woman in Vancouver,” Weihong Liu has for years not talked to the mainstream media about what she has in store for her three new B.C. shopping malls, including Tsawwassen Mills.

However, Liu’s business ideas, plus a great deal more political intrigue, are revealed in a feisty and tear-filled Chinese-language interview she gave to a YouTube channel, in a program that now includes English subtitles and transcript....

....In the rambling, four-part, 2.5-hour YouTube program, Liu denies rumours in the Chinese community that her Canadian businesses are a front for the Chinese Communist Party elite, that she was once a mistress of a high-level Communist official, or is the niece of notorious Adm. Huaqing Liu of the People’s Liberation Army Navy.

Instead, she strongly criticizes China and some of its functionaries, including for overseeing a stagnant economy and having a lack of “self-criticism.” She says she “runs the risk of getting arrested” in the authoritarian country she left a decade ago. “All the wealthy people who can flee have already left.”...

https://vancouversun.com/opinion/col...fic-upbringing

[shreddog]

Originally Posted by Marshsparrow

The plurality gang want a change, want things fixed and are tired...

You got that right! According to Nanos .. Conservative lead Liberals by 16 points – Jobs/the economy and inflation numerically top concerns

Originally Posted by Marshsparrow

I doubt the majority of Cdns prefer a Conservative fix

As the per the link above, the plurality does

Originally Posted by Marshsparrow

I guess if we go on track record - Harper, Ambrose, Scheer, OToole and Bergen

When did Ambrose and Bergen run??

Originally Posted by Marshsparrow

... and now Poilievre haven't had the capacity to rid us of Trudeau

Technically, since 2015 the LPC have LOST the popular vote in every election .... though because of FPTP, they've won the most seats.

Hey, speaking of FPTP, wasn't there something some promise about that way back in 2015?

[Marty_Mcfly]

^ Not that it makes a difference, but the newest Nanos has dropped and the gap has widened to 19 points. Behind the paywall, the CPC are 50 whole points ahead of the LPC, who are polling in single digits, in BC.

Nanos is incredibly unreliable though. The weekly swings in regional numbers is insane. It's very hard to look too far into the chaotic numbers, but Liberals were holding onto Nanos as a glimer of hope that one week they showed a tightening.

There are twitter rumors that Ipsos is about to drop a poll that have the LPC/NDP tied at 19% a piece. I'm not buying into that until I see it.

[lio45]

Originally Posted by Marty_Mcfly

^ Not that it makes a difference, but the newest Nanos has dropped and the gap has widened to 19 points. Behind the paywall, the CPC are 50 whole points ahead of the LPC, who are polling in single digits, in BC.

Nanos is incredibly unreliable though. The weekly swings in regional numbers is insane. It's very hard to look too far into the chaotic numbers, but Liberals were holding onto Nanos as a glimer of hope that one week they showed a tightening.

There are twitter rumors that Ipsos is about to drop a poll that have the LPC/NDP tied at 19% a piece. I'm not buying into that until I see it.

If that pace of souring on the Libs continues, soon shreddog won't even have to stick to saying "a plurality of voters", it'll be an absolute majority who'll rally behind the lesser evil (PP).

[acottawa]

Originally Posted by Marshsparrow

The plurality gang want a change, want things fixed and are tired... I doubt the majority of Cdns prefer a Conservative fix... I guess if we go on track record - Harper, Ambrose, Scheer, OToole and Bergen and now Poilievre haven't had the capacity to rid us of Trudeau... talk about leadership revolving door!

That’s possibly true, but in the absence of a serious NDP it remains a two party system.

[Marshsparrow]

Originally Posted by shreddog

Hey, speaking of FPTP, wasn't there something some promise about that way back in 2015?

That was an unfortunate move and reason to never vote Liberal... BUT nothing says unfranchised like the Conservative Fair Elections Act - wasn't Pierre involved with that? Stripping Candians of a charter right to vote seems very "freedom" and "fair" - what is his Elections Canada compliance agreement all about again (only leader to ever have one) - cheating? That screams integrity and trust in a leader.

[acottawa]

Originally Posted by Marshsparrow

That was an unfortunate move and reason to never vote Liberal... BUT nothing says unfranchised like the Conservative Fair Elections Act - wasn't Pierre involved with that? Stripping Candians of a charter right to vote seems very "freedom" and "fair" - what is his Elections Canada compliance agreement all about again (only leader to ever have one) - cheating? That screams integrity and trust in a leader.

Yeah, requiring Canadians to provide ID to prove that they have a charter right to vote is terrible. Voting should definitely have a lower threshold then buying a beer.

[Marty_Mcfly]

Originally Posted by Marty_Mcfly

^ Not that it makes a difference, but the newest Nanos has dropped and the gap has widened to 19 points. Behind the paywall, the CPC are 50 whole points ahead of the LPC, who are polling in single digits, in BC.

Nanos is incredibly unreliable though. The weekly swings in regional numbers is insane. It's very hard to look too far into the chaotic numbers, but Liberals were holding onto Nanos as a glimer of hope that one week they showed a tightening.

There are twitter rumors that Ipsos is about to drop a poll that have the LPC/NDP tied at 19% a piece. I'm not buying into that until I see it.

Of course it wasn't real. Ipsos poll shows 43/24/19, though they're starting to see more and more people think that Pierre would be the better PM at 48%.

On the other hand, drunk Frankie is going to release an EKOS poll today with a 36/27/24 vote intention, so Liberals do have something they can hang their hat on now that Nanos has betrayed them.

[YOWetal]

Originally Posted by Marshsparrow

The plurality gang want a change, want things fixed and are tired... I doubt the majority of Cdns prefer a Conservative fix... I guess if we go on track record - Harper, Ambrose, Scheer, OToole and Bergen and now Poilievre haven't had the capacity to rid us of Trudeau... talk about leadership revolving door!

People are now tired of the liberal experiment. Those that didn't appreciate our lurch to the left shifted already in 2019 Most of the rest since 2021 that are reacting in an uniformed way to factors completely unrelated to their actual policies and maybe some of them would vote NDP with someone like Mulclair at the helm but that seems like it wouldn't change things substantially in seat count.