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Old Posted Dec 3, 2018, 8:13 AM
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Are you proposing a new research university be funded from Calgary's 2019-2022 Budget?
LOL at your lame attempt to insult me.

1. Cities in AB don't fund universities.

2. I'm proposing this university be located in Rocky View County. Top researchers need to work in an environment that gives them freedom and doesn't shackle them with a million stupid regulations. Your boy Nenshi has completely sucked the creative process out of this city.
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Are you sure?
http://www.municipalaffairs.alberta....ervice_alberta

So they apparently can't charge for the privilege of borrowing, yet can charge for a card (which is required for borrowing?).

To be fair, that's totally splitting hairs, and is not the legislation itself.
There are a lot of services for which the library could charge a fee. Programs like reading to the kids, computer courses, access to virtual library from home, etc. could all have an associated charge.

This also includes charging for an access card that enables the library to loan materials for free. The province allows for charging a fee for access cards.

The problem with the Calgary Public Library is the biggest reason people go to the library is because its free. The moment a $5 charge is introduced, people don't go. Further, those that do pay suddenly have a much higher expectation of service than what free services expectation.

The problem with charging for access to online materials is that most information service providers provide free access to Public Libraries on the assumption the library can't/won't have a charge as well. Its likely Microsoft isn't charging Calgary Public Library for MS Office delivered on the Chromebook.
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The biggest thing I noticed when listening to the council discussions about the library is the reason it's considered so crucial to keep current levels up is it seems to be filling in for shortcomings in other budgets. Library staff doing everything from going into schools to run programs to administering naloxone to OD'ing patrons (not kidding), so what seems like limitless other entities are relying on it to help them.
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Old Posted Dec 3, 2018, 7:29 PM
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A college would be a great idea but a research university would be even better to help diversify the economy. A region with this many people should have a lot more than two universities, especially when those two are nothing great.
1. Cities in AB don't fund universities.
Why are you posting this in the "Calgary Budget 2019-2022" thread?

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2. I'm proposing this university be located in Rocky View County. Top researchers need to work in an environment that gives them freedom and doesn't shackle them with a million stupid regulations. Your boy Nenshi has completely sucked the creative process out of this city.
Could you list some of the "million stupid regulations" that you're saying the current mayor has implemented resulting in sucking the "creative process out of this city" / universities?

What top researchers do you mean? Be specific on the principal investigators you're saying the city has shackled by way of "a million stupid regulations".

Do you understand how universities start?

Why would you want a new stand-alone university in Rocky View County as opposed to adding a field station or campus of an existing university, and how would it be different from the various rural campuses and research stations of existing universities in Alberta?

You do realize this is the "Calgary Budget 2019-2022" thread, right? Here is an overview of the levels of government in Canada, and what levels are responsible for which areas:
https://lop.parl.ca/About/Parliament...ernment-e.html
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Old Posted Dec 3, 2018, 7:35 PM
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The biggest thing I noticed when listening to the council discussions about the library is the reason it's considered so crucial to keep current levels up is it seems to be filling in for shortcomings in other budgets. Library staff doing everything from going into schools to run programs to administering naloxone to OD'ing patrons (not kidding), so what seems like limitless other entities are relying on it to help them.
It is almost as if it is beyond a library system. So we need to acknowledge that the word library means something well beyond what it used to mean. People aren't even getting that libraries deliver on literacy, let alone all the other things the system now does. Libraries have truly become community enablers - really something quite impressive, particularly when we see how much volunteering also goes on through libraries. They are delivering things that if we were to instead have separate municipal initiatives for, would end up costing multiples and may not even be as effective. The library system seems one of the few that cuts across all socio-economic barriers across the entire city. The value is often understated or unappreciated. Could be a good case study actually.
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