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Old Posted Dec 6, 2019, 3:16 PM
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Should the Vista been built on lsd plot where cirrus/cascade are being built. Any thoughts???
The original plan of LSE includes the tallest building of the neighborhood, as a supertall, with wacker dr and pedestrian connection underneath it in the location vista is standing today

Personally I like it this way, excited for site I though
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Old Posted Dec 6, 2019, 5:09 PM
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It makes no sense to put the tallest bulidings fronting the lake. Why wouldn't you want to spread the views out to more buildings rather than fencing everyone else in with giant towers fronting the lake? We also get better skyline views this way as the buildings are ordered neatly by high to give them all some visibility. One of the defining features of our skyline is the wedding-cake style massing of rows of historic or lower buildings fronting the parks with larger and larger buildings rising up behind them. Think Drake-Palmolive-Hancock or the Michigan Ave Streetwall with Legacy or other MCM towers looming above.

The only thing that makes site I and the spire hole acceptable places for a 1000'+ tower is that they are the gates of the river. The current scheme for Site I is tall enough IMO, but I wouldn't mind if they slapped another 100-300' on it.

Vista is just perfect where it is, fronting the river and terminating Field Drive and McClug. It's also pretty freaking sweet to have a multi level road passing through the center of a supertall. I don't think that's a condition that exists anywhere else on earth. It's like one of those old pictures of people driving a Model T through a redwood...
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It makes no sense to put the tallest bulidings fronting the lake. Why wouldn't you want to spread the views out to more buildings rather than fencing everyone else in with giant towers fronting the lake? We also get better skyline views this way as the buildings are ordered neatly by high to give them all some visibility. One of the defining features of our skyline is the wedding-cake style massing of rows of historic or lower buildings fronting the parks with larger and larger buildings rising up behind them. Think Drake-Palmolive-Hancock or the Michigan Ave Streetwall with Legacy or other MCM towers looming above.
Agreed! I wish The Loop did a better job with this. We really could use a few 1000 footers in the heart of The Loop. I also wish we had a row of pre-war skyscrapers on the north and south ends of the park in front of the towers, but we can't change that now.
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Old Posted Dec 6, 2019, 5:34 PM
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Me too.
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Old Posted Dec 6, 2019, 6:01 PM
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Great shots gandalf612.

The shades of the glass, with that dark, royal blue at night. Somebody mentioned how it captures the river, and I think it was a good choice how the facade not only captures the river during the day, but how it appears at night, as the lights reflect onto the water surface, creating patches of dark blue, with a dim cyan color almost.

Its one thing to make a tower work in the day, but at night, with the intention of matching the hues, fine work. The ripples in the facade seem to scatter light and create shadow in a way that makes it work, from the looks of it.
Couldn't have said it better myself! This statement encompasses everything I wanted to say as a comment/compliment of the beautifulness' of the buildings lines and colour of glass!
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Old Posted Dec 6, 2019, 10:59 PM
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Agreed! I wish The Loop did a better job with this. We really could use a few 1000 footers in the heart of The Loop. I also wish we had a row of pre-war skyscrapers on the north and south ends of the park in front of the towers, but we can't change that now.
This is largely due to the "completeness" of the loop though. There's not a lot of ways to get a site suitable for large projects like Vista or OCS. That's a good thing IMO and hopefully a handful of the remaining large sites like parking garages can be redveloped into something huge at some point.

Also I definitely don't mind the modern end caps to the park. Once the Roosevelt and Michigan site is developed the "bookends" of the park will be complete. The tradition of going tall on ends of the park started with 1 Pru in the immediate post war era.
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The tradition of going tall on ends of the park started with 1 Pru in the immediate post war era.

LVDW, question, you mentioned multiple levels of Wacker going thru Vista...Isn't it just the lower?

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LVDW, question, you mentioned multiple levels of Wacker going thru Vista...Isn't it just the lower?
Upper wacker will wind thru vista and become n. harbor

View from south:

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Upper wacker will wind thru vista and become n. harbor

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Awesome. thnx
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This is my favorite angle, this one right here. I think this is a tower of many faces (multiple personalities) and this one right here is the one that has a aquatic, psychedelic vibe to it.



This angle is cool too, but not as pronounced.


Credit for both: James Novotny
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This is my favorite angle, this one right here.
Indeed, more than a few people (including myself) have said the same thing. And luckily, Vista is often seen or photographed from this angle, because many people walk along or cross the Chicago River in this area west of Vista.
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I'm flying around my Chicago model and it's hard to get the Sears tower to line up. haha.
The apparent height is given by the arctan of the actual height (relative to where you're standing) divided by the lateral distance. (Note that here we're inventing a cartesian grid, so x and y aren't exactly positions on the geoid as that would neglect earth curvature).

So for a building with at (x_i,y_i,z_i), the apparent height for an observer at (x,y,z) is atan( (z_i-z) / sqrt((x_i-x)^2 + (y_i-y)^2). We also have the constraint that (x,y,z) must be above the local geoid.

In order for n buildings to have the same apparent height, we must therefore have:

C = (z_i-z)^2 / ( (x_i-x)^2 + (y_i-y)^2)

for i = (1..n).


For two buildings, one can with sufficient algebra find a relation z(x,y) of positions where the two buildings have the same height. Adding another building, one gets three such relations. It's possible z(x,y) = z'(x,y) = z''(x,y) somewhere but I am not sure how likely that is. For 5 I would think some very special symmetry relations must be needed. It would be fun to write a program to find the least-squares solution to the "equal height" problem for an arbitrary set of buildings. I have a 15 hour flight to NZ coming up... if I feel bored and don't feel like doing real work maybe I'll do that.
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Oh man, those lake shots. Absolutely stunning.
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Oh man, those lake shots. Absolutely stunning.
Ferris Wheel - Solar did you use a lens skirt to avoid reflections or do they keep the cars dark ?
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i wonder why USCGC Mackinaw was in town?

anyway, fantastic shots, as always!
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Had the black framing, seen in the blow-through floors, been placed throughout the whole building, this thing would be 10x cooler.
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