Who is "fit" to immigrate to Canada?

[Luisito]

Sometimes it feels like only people from India are fit to come here. I go to the supermarket and all the casheres are Indian. I take a bus or a cab and the drivers are indian. I go to the corner store, it is run by Indians. The pharmacy, indians. I order a pizza the delivery guy is Indian. Any fast food joint, I am served by Indians. I call my bank or the government and an Indian answers the phone. I go to the cannabis shop the guard at the door is indian. Even last time I came through costums it was an Indian guy checking my passport!!! Like seriously wtf?????

If Canada values mutliculutralism so much, why such lopsided policies in favour of a few groups? Shouldn't we mix it up a bit more??

[rousseau]

Originally Posted by Luisito

Sometimes it feels like only people from India are fit to come here. I go to the supermarket and all the casheres are Indian. I take a bus or a cab and the drivers are indian. I go to the corner store, it is run by Indians. The pharmacy, indians. I order a pizza the delivery guy is Indian. Any fast food joint, I am served by Indians. I call my bank or the government and an Indian answers the phone. I go to the cannabis shop the guard at the door is indian. Even last time I came through costums it was an Indian guy checking my passport!!! Like seriously wtf?????

If Canada values mutliculutralism so much, why such lopsided policies in favour of a few groups? Shouldn't we mix it up a bit more??

It's simple: China and India are the two main source nations for immigrants, but immigrant Chinese people tend not to work in the service industry outside of Chinese business districts.

Still, I know what you mean. I recently went to the Best Buy in Kitchener for the first time in a couple years and it was sort of like Invasion of the Body Snatchers: virtually all of the representatives on the floor were south Asian. Not sure how that happened.

Actually, in the last year I've noticed that many of the fast food chains in Stratford have been taken over by south Asians as well. The south Asian accent (one of my least favourites, truth be told) is now fairly commonplace here when you go out to buy fast food here.

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by rousseau

It's simple: China and India are the two main source nations for immigrants, .

India and China by themselves also have close to 3 billion of the world's 8 billion people.

When you have an immigration policy like Canada's that is largely indifferent to newcomers' nationalities, even if precisely 3 out of every 8 of our immigrants aren't going to be from those two countries due to other factors, it stands to reason that a huge number of immigrants will still be from there.

[kool maudit]

They're pretty good countries in terms of diaspora performance.

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by kool maudit

They're pretty good countries in terms of diaspora performance.

That too.

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by rousseau

. I recently went to the Best Buy in Kitchener for the first time in a couple years and it was sort of like Invasion of the Body Snatchers: virtually all of the representatives on the floor were south Asian. Not sure how that happened.

Actually, in the last year I've noticed that many of the fast food chains in Stratford have been taken over by south Asians as well. The south Asian accent (one of my least favourites, truth be told) is now fairly commonplace here when you go out to buy fast food here.

On my most recent trip to visit my wife's family in Northeastern Ontario, it was very noticeable that many service positions in fast food places especially were now staffed by people from South Asia.

This is a very recent development. And we are not talking about very big cities either.

[Luisito]

Originally Posted by kool maudit

They're pretty good countries in terms of diaspora performance.

Are they also the largest immigrant groups in Sweden?

[Luisito]

Originally Posted by Acajack

India and China by themselves also have close to 3 billion of the world's 8 billion people.

When you have an immigration policy like Canada's that is largely indifferent to newcomers' nationalities, even if precisely 3 out of every 8 of our immigrants aren't going to be from those two countries due to other factors, it stands to reason that a huge number of immigrants will still be from there.

So why aren't they the largest immigrant groups in Quebec?

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by Luisito

So why aren't they the largest immigrant groups in Quebec?

Those "other factors" I alluded to. Though even so, the Chinese are pretty high up on the list in Quebec (top 5 most years), and India is somewhere in the top 20 I am pretty sure as well.

[kwoldtimer]

Originally Posted by Acajack

Those "other factors" I alluded to. Though even so, the Chinese are pretty high up on the list in Quebec (top 5 most years), and India is somewhere in the top 20 I am pretty sure as well.

I was going to say, China would be an important source. Not sure why South Asia lags, but I don’t know whether the provincial program puts any resources into South Asia.

[kool maudit]

Originally Posted by Luisito

Are they also the largest immigrant groups in Sweden?

Immigration to Sweden mainly comes from other EU countries or asylum seekers.

[Luisito]

I guess those other factors are language.

South Saharan Africa has a massive population aswell. Why don't we see as many of them here as Chinese and Indians? If its about the numbers then we should be seeing more Africans here.

[kwoldtimer]

Originally Posted by Luisito

I guess those other factors are language.

South Saharan Africa has a massive population aswell. Why don't we see as many of them here as Chinese and Indians? If its about the numbers then we should be seeing more Africans here.

“Africa” would be Quebec’s largest source, no? Nigeria is a big source country for Canada, although I don’t know what the immigrant/refugee breakdown looks like.

[Luisito]

Originally Posted by kwoldtimer

I was going to say, China would be an important source. Not sure why South Asia lags, but I don’t know whether the provincial program puts any resources into South Asia.

Sure China is an important source. They are not the number one source though like they are in other places. One thing I noticed about Chinese is that they really stick to themselves. They don't seem to involve themselves in local politics as much as Indians do and they are not as religious either. They are not as in your face as Indians. Maybe in Vancouver they do.

[Luisito]

Originally Posted by kool maudit

Immigration to Sweden mainly comes from other EU countries or asylum seekers.

You guys should let in more Indians and Chinese. They are model minorities.

[Luisito]

Originally Posted by kwoldtimer

“Africa” would be Quebec’s largest source, no? Nigeria is a big source country for Canada, although I don’t know what the immigrant/refugee breakdown looks like.

Really? Interesting

As far as the rest of Canada I doubt Nigeria is even top ten immigrant countries to Canada. It should be though. If we are about openess and equality then they should be for sure.

[begratto]

Originally Posted by kwoldtimer

“Africa” would be Quebec’s largest source, no? Nigeria is a big source country for Canada, although I don’t know what the immigrant/refugee breakdown looks like.

Actually, Asia is Quebec's largest source. Here's the data from 2018 :

Africa : 29.6%
Americas : 13.5%
Asia : 43.4%
Europe : 13.2%
Oceania : 0.2%

Source : tableaux sur l'immigration permanente du Québec, 2014-2018

And the top countries :
Total 2018 immigration 51,118

1. China 5,308
2. France 3,952
3. India 3,850
4. Syria 2,937
5. Algeria 2,772
6. Philippines 2,337
7. Morocco 2,042
8. Haiti 1,725
9. Cameroun 1,707
10. Tunisia 1,460
11. Iran 1,421
12. Côte d'Ivoire 1,372
13. Colombia 890
14. USA 977
15. Congo 861

[Acajack]

We should not assume that every country is as nationality-indifferent as Canada (or at least Anglo-Canada) is when it comes to selecting immigrants.

Though even Canada skews things a bit by awarding points for knowledge of English or French, or both.

And Quebec's selection system skews things even further as it awards a fairly significant amount of points for knowledge of French. This doesn't mean that you get in just by knowing French, nor does it mean that if you don't know French you can't get into Quebec. But it does have an effect.

Top countries of origin for immigrants to Quebec, 2018

China
France
India
Syria
Algeria
Philippines
Morocco
Haiti
Cameroon
Tunisia
Iran
Ivory Coast
Colombia
United States
DR Congo

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by Acajack

We should not assume that every country is as nationality-indifferent as Canada (or at least Anglo-Canada) is when it comes to selecting immigrants.

Though even Canada skews things a bit by awarding points for knowledge of English or French, or both.

And Quebec's selection system skews things even further as it awards a fairly significant amount of points for knowledge of French. This doesn't mean that you get in just by knowing French, nor does it mean that if you don't know French you can't get into Quebec. But it does have an effect.

Top countries of origin for immigrants to Quebec, 2018

China
France
India
Syria
Algeria
Philippines
Morocco
Haiti
Cameroon
Tunisia
Iran
Ivory Coast
Colombia
United States
DR Congo

Ha ha, begratto and I posted the same thing!

[Luisito]

So even in Quebec Asians get preferential treatment. Nice.