AUSTIN | T. Stacy Towers 2 bldgs| 830 FT/253 M | 70 FLOORS | 420 FT/128 M | 30 FLOORS - Page 4

americanskyscraper22 · #61 Posted **Jun 13, 2009, 11:02 PM**

nice to hear

AustinSkyscrapers · #62 Posted **Jun 13, 2009, 11:04 PM**

It welcomes us that there's news.

KevinFromTexas · #63 Posted **Jun 13, 2009, 11:22 PM**

It's still nothing official though. Until we get some credible official reports, I can only be optimistic.

Oddly enough, that $44 million they secured in loans would pay for their old proposal for the site. Their original plan for the site had a price tag of $40 million. Originally, before they had planned separate towers on the block, they were planning a "2nd" Bank of America Center tower that would have been a twin. Basically their plan was to build it right next to the old tower to double the square footage of the property. From what I could gather, they probably would have knocked out the curtain wall on the south side of the building. If that happened, I would imagine they would do a complete facade overhaul on the building to make it look more modern. I really hope this isn't the current plan though. I'd rather see a separate differently designed tower(s) for the block. I think a squatty rectangular building there would look awful, being that it's such a prominent location, not to mention it would basically be 70s style architecture almost 40 years passed its era.

AustinSkyscrapers · #64 Posted **Jun 13, 2009, 11:36 PM**

You're correct Kevin. Just another boxy building BY a boxy building (Bank of America Tower) in Austin would look awful.

I'm wanting some future era/art deco type building for it. That would be cool.

And in renderings, what did they do to the BOA Tower? Did they add some glassy and glossy empty spaced cover like they did in the mass renovation of the CBT?

Is anybody sure $44 million would be enough? Well, it might be now or never that this complex is to be built. It will be small compared to Green Water Complex.

I want this building to be built. :nuts:

Plokoon11 · #65 Posted **Jun 14, 2009, 12:18 AM**

This tower will definitely boost the skyline.

AustinSkyscrapers · #66 Posted **Jun 14, 2009, 1:06 AM**

Of course. It will 100%.

StevenW · #67 Posted **Jun 14, 2009, 1:15 AM**

Dang! How is Austin doing it? :? I'm jealous for my Hometown of Baltimore.

KevinFromTexas · #68 Posted **Jun 15, 2009, 3:20 AM**

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Originally Posted by AustinSkyscrapers

And in renderings, what did they do to the BOA Tower?

They never released any renderings of that proposal.

AustinSkyscrapers · #69 Posted **Jun 15, 2009, 8:28 PM**

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Originally Posted by KevinFromTexas

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Originally Posted by AustinSkyscrapers

You're correct Kevin. Just another boxy building BY a boxy building (Bank of America Tower) in Austin would look awful.

I'm wanting some future era/art deco type building for it. That would be cool.

And in renderings, what did they do to the BOA Tower? Did they add some glassy and glossy empty spaced cover like they did in the mass renovation of the CBT?

Is anybody sure $44 million would be enough? Well, it might be now or never that this complex is to be built. It will be small compared to Green Water Complex.

I want this building to be built. :nuts:

They never released any renderings of that proposal.

Well it just apppeared to me that some sort of blue glass thing on the old T. Stacy rendering was on the BOA Tower. (Short form of Bank of America Tower). If so, we would be the only ones with the blue glass excluding the Reuters Building?

The blue thing should be on the BOA.

AustinSkyscrapers · #70 Posted **Jun 24, 2009, 4:37 PM**

And here's my percentage:

T.Stacy Condo Tower: 35%-T. Stacy doesn't have a really good record at buildings being approved, and when it comes to an 830 footer, icky. We do want that thing to come up though.

americanskyscraper22 · #71 Posted **Jun 24, 2009, 11:02 PM**

you're unfortunately right. the odds of T.Stacey are slim

Scottolini · #72 Posted **Jul 5, 2009, 11:46 PM**

What projects of Mr. Stacy have failed? Here is a list of some of his projects. It seems he's done quite well with these projects.

http://www.tstacy.com/portfolio_list.php?location_id=1

AustinSkyscrapers · #73 Posted **Jul 6, 2009, 3:33 AM**

Hm, not as bad as many people say. 4th and Congress DVLPT site would turn into Frosty the snowman.

StoOgE · #74 Posted **Jul 10, 2009, 11:53 PM**

Not to rain on anyone's parade.. but several of those "development" projects were existing buildings that he purchased. Granted, it looks like he turned their profitability around pretty nicely when they owned them, then sold them off.

But that sort of experience is different from constructing an 700+ food building.

AustinSkyscrapers · #75 Posted **Jul 11, 2009, 12:54 AM**

Ya, several like the Scabourough Building and BoA Tower.

"But that sort of experience is different from constructing an 700+ food building."

It's a building full of food.

Jdawgboy · #76 Posted **Jul 11, 2009, 8:26 PM**

I must remind that t.Stacy had a huge role to play in the development of the Frost Bank Tower. I would say give this some more time, I know we have heard news about this since 05 but I say better late than never so lets hope for late...

AustinSkyscrapers · #77 Posted **Jul 11, 2009, 8:36 PM**

Huge role play. That 4th and Congress dvlp. site. They were to build something, but it ended up with Cousins Properties doing Frost Bank.

From the T. Stacy site:

In 1998 a T. Stacy partnership began assembling several tracts of land at 4th & Congress in downtown Austin. Ultimately deciding to sell and not develop the site, TSA sold the site to Cousins Properties in 2001. TSA took the project through the entire entitlement and development approval process and obtained the greatest variance of FAR ever received in Austin at that time. Soon thereafter, Cousins developed a 525,000sf class A+ office building on the site which opened in early 2004.

Lecom · #78 Posted **Jul 14, 2009, 7:14 PM**

That's an improvement in design. Never liked the old one.

AustinSkyscrapers · #79 Posted **Jul 14, 2009, 11:56 PM**

For comparison:

Now: By shanny

Before: By T.Stacy and Associates:

shrikearghast · #80 Posted **Aug 3, 2009, 7:11 AM**

I live just south of Austin, and this is a really... REALLY ugly building. I can't stand structures that 'flare' or 'twist,' and unfortunately that seems to be the trend in modern high-rise construction. Seeing as Austin is a high-growth area, I remain cautiously optimistic that something taller (and more tasteful) will place this thing in shadow within a few years.