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Old Posted Sep 18, 2008, 2:16 AM
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CentrePort Canada | Winnipeg

Since this development has the potencial to become among the largest in the city's history it deserves to have it own thread.
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Huge chance for 'Peg

Inland port would bring growth, investment, jobs
By CHUCK DAVIDSON



More than a century ago, Winnipeg's population exploded from 25,000 in 1891 to 179,000 just 30 years later.

This was thanks in large part to construction of the Canadian Pacific Railway line, which positioned Winnipeg as the gateway to the West from Eastern Canada.

Back then, transportation opened the door to mass immigration and trade across Canada and Winnipeg was perfectly positioned to reap the benefits. Fast forward to today and Winnipeg could once again reap the economic benefits of our central position, with transportation being the catalyst.

Last week, the Manitoba government introduced legislation that would create CentrePort Canada, a private sector focused corporation that would develop and promote Manitoba's inland port and build on the province's network of air, rail, sea and trucking routes.

The concept of an inland port is actually quite simple. Currently when goods are transported from overseas, they initially arrive at the port in ether Vancouver or Prince Rupert. From there, cargo typically has to be processed before it is shipped to its final destination throughout the continent.




The rationale for an inland port being established in Winnipeg is the processing could take place here because of our central location and established transportation networks.

Simply look at any map and our heart of the continent location reveals we are already positioned along the spine of the mid-continent trade corridor linking Mexico to the Port of Churchill. Further enhancing our case is the fact 80% of rail container traffic originating on the West Coast passes through Winnipeg on its way east.

The economic opportunity is tremendous and would result in growth, investment and jobs for Winnipeg, Manitoba and Canada -- but there is still a lot of work to be done before it becomes reality.

It should also be noted Winnipeg is not alone in attempting to position itself as a major destination for trade and transportation. Cities like Halifax, Sault St. Marie, Regina, Saskatoon, Calgary and Edmonton are all attempting to leverage financial assistance from their local governments, the federal government and the private sector to position themselves as inland port destinations.

IMPORTANT STEP

The creation of CentrePort Canada is an important step in providing Winnipeg with an edge on the competition. Barry Rempel, president and CEO of the Winnipeg Airports Authority, says there is land available immediately and a plan for future phases of fully serviced land.

All of the important players are on the same page in regards to the importance of this project. Premier Gary Doer, Mayor Sam Katz, the Manitoba Federation of Labour, as well as the business community, are all supportive of the initiative.

The development of an inland port probably won't result in our population growing at the rate it did a hundred years ago. But it should position us once again as not just Canada's gateway to the West but to the rest of the world.

Source: Winnipeg Sun
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20 years ago winport was going to be the most important development to ever happen in winnipeg....i like the name centreport better at least....i wonder what the idea will be called in 2020 when someone comes up with it again....maybe....fortheloveofgodpleaseshipyourstuffthroughourcityport
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20 years ago winport was going to be the most important development to ever happen in winnipeg....i like the name centreport better at least....i wonder what the idea will be called in 2020 when someone comes up with it again....maybe....fortheloveofgodpleaseshipyourstuffthroughourcityport
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I like the ring of this name, i just don't think that it would be a prudent business decision to use so many letters, i mean your printing costs would be through the roof.
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20 years ago winport was going to be the most important development to ever happen in winnipeg....i like the name centreport better at least....i wonder what the idea will be called in 2020 when someone comes up with it again....maybe....fortheloveofgodpleaseshipyourstuffthroughourcityport
hahaha good one....although in 2020, it will be built, we will be making money, and will be transporting goods faster than we can count the cash
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hahaha good one....although in 2020, it will be built, we will be making money, and will be transporting goods faster than we can count the cash
I would have to agree with you... they will begin connection services to land next summer.. and development will begin after then.

The interchange at Stergon and Inkster will begin constructuion next year as well.
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I would have to agree with you... they will begin connection services to land next summer.. and development will begin after then.

The interchange at Stergon and Inkster will begin constructuion next year as well.
I read the posts and it looks like they are still at the proposal stage, that said did any of the following ever happen for 2009? Are Services to the land complete? and how far along is the interchange?
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I read the posts and it looks like they are still at the proposal stage, that said did any of the following ever happen for 2009? Are Services to the land complete? and how far along is the interchange?
Aquiring land from the niebouring municipality has taken longer than originally expected. Surveying has occured, but development on the west side of the airport will be pushed back until the city locks down the land in question. In the mean time further detailed plans are being completed. The final plans have not be desided. It is down to 3 fairly similar designs... and the interchange is included.

It sounds like the land transfer will occur later this year with the help of the province, and development will begin soon after. Large amounts of funding are in place and this massive development project will soon take off.
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^ yeah there has to be some sort of acronym there...

FLGPSYSTOC Port. Or maybe shorten it to FLOG Port.
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so basically, Winnipeg has the chance to become the Chicago of the Canada?
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so basically, Winnipeg has the chance to become the Chicago of the Canada?
Chicago might be pushing reality ... but Winnipeg may soon return to its economic roots as being a major global centre of trade.

As it is layed out now the new Centreport Canada site will be nearly half the size of Regina. There will be major upgrades to the Highway linking to the US interstate system as well as to the TransCanada.. especailly how it links into the city. The Port of Churchill is set to be enhanced, as are the current rail links to that port.

If it goes ahead .. it will be the largest economic driven in the city and province for decades to come.
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I've been in the wilds of northern Alberta for the last couple of days, and when I read this article today, it made me really happy.


But again, will this Centreport have competition from Regina and Edmonton with their bids for an inland port, or would this happen despite what occurs in those cities?

Honestly, I could see only two cities that would be considered best suited for these inland ports on the Prairies: Winnipeg and Edmonton. The rest really don' have the geographical location advantage like these two cities do.
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It would appear to me that Winnipeg's geographical advantage would be as a distribution point to the U.S., mainly. But given the border hassles why wouldn't you just ship to Grand Forks or Minneapolis if you want that advantage? When they start talking about Winnipeg's central position in some imaginary Mexico-to-Churchill "corridor", it just sounds like the usual badly thought out idea that someone's pushing because there's government money to be had.
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It would appear to me that Winnipeg's geographical advantage would be as a distribution point to the U.S., mainly. But given the border hassles why wouldn't you just ship to Grand Forks or Minneapolis if you want that advantage? When they start talking about Winnipeg's central position in some imaginary Mexico-to-Churchill "corridor", it just sounds like the usual badly thought out idea that someone's pushing because there's government money to be had.

Then why bother shipping in Canada at all?

I'm very curious; what is your take on Edmonton's efforts to become a inland port hub to Prince Rupert?
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I've been in the wilds of northern Alberta for the last couple of days, and when I read this article today, it made me really happy.

But again, will this Centreport have competition from Regina and Edmonton with their bids for an inland port, or would this happen despite what occurs in those cities?

Honestly, I could see only two cities that would be considered best suited for these inland ports on the Prairies: Winnipeg and Edmonton. The rest really don't have the geographical location advantage like these two cities do.
Hmmmm...you asked the question...you got some answers that you did not like and now you are beating up the forumers who responded ...wow...not sure who is really dense here but I suspect it is not me...
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Hmmmm...you asked the question...you got some answers that you did not like and now you are beating up the forumers who responded ...wow...not sure who is really dense here but I suspect it is not me...
I got answers, just in different forms from different forumers, hence my conversation with you right now. I'm still waiting for you to create a thread in the Alberta section relating to Edmonton's inland port. As you are a die-hard fan of that idea, I am very interested to see how that thread progresses, unless for some reason you don't want to be a part of it

Anyways, only time will tell which city will get the title. So let's quite the bantering and get back on track.
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Chicago might be pushing reality ... but Winnipeg may soon return to its economic roots as being a major global centre of trade.

As it is layed out now the new Centreport Canada site will be nearly half the size of Regina.
The problem is that Regina is no longer in the planning stage, which Winnipeg seems to still be ironing out. The upgrades are already underway and our inland port has received a shot in the arm from CP rail as well as Loblaws who has committed to building a distribution centre, one million square feet in size and which will bring 1700 jobs to Regina.

Not saying both can't exist, but it seems as if Regina has already secured a number of tenants. Does that harm Winnipeg's chances? I don't know for certain, but it can't help.
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