I never even thought about that. I assumed at this depth they’re doing 4 levels... maybe a change?
You're right. I went back to Page 1 and found this from alt_centre:
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I heard Chris Luczka on CBC radio this morning. He said there would be 513 spaces on 4 underground levels and 2 podium levels, and the stalls would be big enough for full size pickup trucks (this is Sask. after all).
Wow 513 spots is epic - city of Saskatoon could give up their final surface parking lease a block over and PR Developments might be forced to build or sell their 24th and 5th surface lot if Baydo is looking to also get into the parking business. Bye bye surface parking with the new 100’s of River Landing parking spots, over 100 newly available underground parking spots at Scotia Center once Nutrien moves to River Landing, and these 500 Baydo spots. This may not be the prettiest project, but it removes risk for anyone potentially thinking about building an even uglier above ground parkade and financially helps choke out all of our fugly surface parking investors downtown.
I’ll send another photo in a week, but I dare say that digging could wrap up within a couple weeks at the current speed... if weather cooperates.. I think that -40 spell slowed them down a ton but they seem to want to be done before it warms up more.
Given that there are 426 units in the Baydo building, I'm not convinced there will be a lot of spare parking. While there will certainly be some residents that don't need a stall, so will rent theirs out, I'm guessing the demand for a second stalls will be greater than the supply of spare stalls.
As for people flocking to the UG parking at River Landing, I wouldn't be holding my breath for that. It's way more expensive than surface parking (parking lot or street) so, other than someone going for an event there in the winter, I don't see it getting a ton of use. I go to River Landing quite often during work hours and have never used the UG parkade, even though the East Tower parkade has been open for over a year - I always just park on the street and use my WayToPark app.
There may be more uptake on parking UG at Scotia Centre due to its proximity to shopping, but I still don't think you'll see a wholesale shift from cheap surface parking to more expensive UG parking.
Agreed - short term though while Baydo takes prob like 5+ years to rent out all of those units and whatever the heck happens to scotia center (i’m really hoping they turn it into condos), there’s going to be some cheap underground parking options!
I still have to pinch myself from time to time considering that Saskatoon is getting TWO 25 story buildings.
Glad to see Saskatonians are overwhelmed about their projects.
I hope someday that Saskatoon can push through it's 20 floor building height ceiling and start building into the 40 plus floors like Kelowna currently is.
Glad to see Saskatonians are overwhelmed about their projects.
I hope someday that Saskatoon can push through it's 20 floor building height ceiling and start building into the 40 plus floors like Kelowna currently is.
I sure hope i get to live to see a 40+ story tower next to the river. I lived in kelowna for about 6 months of the last 12 months and I am so envious - and there’s less jobs there, just wealth... Come on developers let’s bring that wealth here
Glad to see Saskatonians are overwhelmed about their projects.
I hope someday that Saskatoon can push through it's 20 floor building height ceiling and start building into the 40 plus floors like Kelowna currently is.
Tallest tower in Kelowna is like 34 floors, right? Most of the new buildings are ~20 floors but they are relatively slender and there is a lot of them which is why it's looking and feeling more like parts of greater Vancouver (densely packed slender tallish midrises).
I would take 2 or 3 20 story downtown condos every year over a 40 story one every couple decades, and from the aesthetic of the skyline would prefer if they varied in height rather than form a plateau. A 40 story plunked in the middle of downtown would stand out like a sore thumb and would have to be of very high quality to be impressive (which means high unit prices and less demand thus less densification downtown).
Tallest tower in Kelowna is like 34 floors, right? Most of the new buildings are ~20 floors but they are relatively slender and there is a lot of them which is why it's looking and feeling more like parts of greater Vancouver (densely packed slender tallish midrises).
I would take 2 or 3 20 story downtown condos every year over a 40 story one every couple decades, and from the aesthetic of the skyline would prefer if they varied in height rather than form a plateau. A 40 story plunked in the middle of downtown would stand out like a sore thumb and would have to be of very high quality to be impressive (which means high unit prices and less demand thus less densification downtown).
very sensible reasoning for Saskatoon. If can't build high quality like in BC best to stick with what you know instead.
ya, Kelowna's current tallest is 35 floors and the city is reaching higher, there's a 41 floor and a 46 floor planned buildings apparently.
many many not care for the look here, but... look at it’s neighboring buildings haha. This will definitely be one of the nicest buildings in the north downtown. It’s definitely a step up from what currently exists and I hope it forces neighboring buildings (cough cough Boardwalk ) to finally do some serious upgrades to their nasty buildings.
I could be wrong but I think the entire fifth avenue main level is retail now? That would be extremely exciting if so.. This is going to be a very active street very soon. Everyone on this thread is so excited for River Landing, but what walkable retail space are we really getting from that? Not much...
It's a paradox, isn't it, how soul-crushing commie blocks can still be a step up in the grand scheme of things. If I had to describe downtown Saskatoon in a single word, I think I would say that it is quite bleak. (Or stark? Is stark a better descriptor?) I think I'm going to start basing my opinions of downtown architecture on the question "Does this make the area more or less bleak?"
In this case, in my opinion, the towers look like a lost cause. They're pretty dismal: Baydo's Broadway experiment writ large. And my god, that podium! If I could only have one wish, it would be for improvements to the podium, especially the parkade levels along 5th ave. Imagine walking past that in the winter, ugh. It's so cold and sterile, foreboding and alienating. I like the little walkway in the middle of the ground floor, but not at the expense of entrances onto 5th avenue that would actually add activity to the street and help ensure some upkeep to the streetscape. If only the parkade could be placed behind an active-use frontage, too, to eliminate the blank and window-slit portions of the podium. Some variety in construction materials would be nice too (brick would be a godsend). If these shitboxes had a nice podium, I'd shut up about them forever.
Edit: Wait a minute --- is the walkway in the middle of the ground floor for cars, maybe as a drop-off spot and entrance to the parkade? That seems less than ideal for 5th ave. I wish detailed plans were available.
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