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Old Posted May 22, 2024, 2:07 PM
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Vancouver at 2,971,853 (3 million by now), and the Fraser Valley Region at 3.3 million.
Vancouver at 2,971,853 (3 million by now), and the Fraser Valley Region (Chilliwack + Abbotsford ) was at 337,948.

Metro Vancouver added 252,000 and Fraser Valley added 22,000 in 4 years.
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Old Posted May 22, 2024, 2:07 PM
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Calgary growing by 100,000 in 1 year

Also - Cape Breton adding nearly 7,000 in one year is nuts. that area was terminally losing population and felt like it would never recover until very recently. How the Maritime's fortunes have reversed..
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Kitchener - Cambridge - Waterloo (CMA), Ontario	665,188  5.79%
Moncton (CMA), New Brunswick                    178,971  5.78%
Calgary (CMA), Alberta                        1,682,509  5.69%
Saskatoon (CMA), Saskatchewan                   352,093  4.59%
Edmonton (CMA), Alberta                       1,563,571  4.04%
Vancouver (CMA), British Columbia             2,971,853  4.03%
Peterborough (CMA), Ontario                     142,737  3.99%
Regina (CMA), Saskatchewan                      271,119  3.90%
Fredericton (CMA), New Brunswick                119,059  3.82%
Halifax (CMA), Nova Scotia                      518,711  3.81%
Yup, 3 Maritime CMA's in top 10, pct-wise. Moncton just missed the top spot by .01%
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Old Posted May 22, 2024, 2:07 PM
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2022 numbers revised too. Some fairly big revisions down. Regina and Saskatoon lost nearly 10k each.

But then grew by more so it balances out.

Regina should hit 300k in 2027 or 2028.
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Calgary growing by 100,000 in 1 year

Also - Cape Breton adding nearly 7,000 in one year is nuts. that area was terminally losing population and felt like it would never recover until very recently. How the Maritime's fortunes have reversed..
I've been checking smaller urban areas in the Maritimes and it's shocking how the vast majority of them are now growing. Not long ago most were said to be dying.
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Cape Breton adding nearly 7,000 in one year is nuts. that area was terminally losing population and felt like it would never recover until very recently. How the Maritime's fortunes have reversed..
Almost all due to Dave Dingwall and his foreign student grift at CBU I imagine.
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Kitchener at 665k, London at 608k, and Windsor at 467k already is just crazy. Other notable big jumps are Winnipeg to 910k, Quebec City to 880k, Halifax to 518k, and Saskatoon to 352k.
It is crazy, Windsor could easily be 500K by 2025, wow!
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Old Posted May 22, 2024, 2:27 PM
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A couple of other surprises:

Sault Ste Marie jumped from 81,000 to 85,000 in one year

North Bay jumped 76 to 79k

Sarnia and Chatham are both almost certain to be CMAs in 2026 now - Chatham should be crossing the 50,000 core measure now especially since most growth in the area is likely directed to Chatham itself. The Chatham population centre was at 45k in the 2021 census, with the growth numbers it's posting I'd be surprised if it doesn't hit 50k by 2026.

Prince George will also likely be converted to a CMA by the looks of it

My guess is Granby and Charlottetown need another census to get there.

Calgary continues to widen the gap with Ottawa - now up 73,000 people over Ottawa vs. just 17,000 last year. Before 2022, the two were effectively tied for several years.
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I liked Alberta. The sad reality is that aside from Montreal and Southern Ontario, Canada feels empty and devoid of economic opportunities. (Compared to Western Pennsylvania, Ohio, Indiana which I've been exploring: pick any random small town and the list of famous people, inventions, industry there vs small town Canada, especially in the West, is astonishing. Eg. Meadville PA.)
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I've definitely noticed this as well as I've explored more and more of the continent.

Things always seem more "consequential" in the US, even in smaller places. I often put this down to the Americans simply being better at tooting their own horn (which they are), but it's not just that. There is a highly ambitious streak in the US that is largely absent in Canada.
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St. John's at 232K?!?! Massive revision and leap there as it was previously 219K for 2022
Catching up to us (Sherbrooke). From memory, I don't recall if we're 19-20 or 20-21, not sure if we're always both in the top 20 (two last spots) or if only the one who's in the lead at the time is in it (as #20).

(I've had this minor hometown rivalry with SignalHillHiker for at least 10 years now!)
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... but it's not just that. There is a highly ambitious streak in the US that is largely absent in Canada.
To be more precise, the "highly ambitious streak" from Canada usually relocates to the US pretty soon in their careers... (the result being, obviously, what you observe.)
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Old Posted May 22, 2024, 3:24 PM
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Also - the GTHA passed 8 million people now, at 8,110,000 with Hamilton, Toronto, and Oshawa CMAs combined.

Rapidly approaching the Chicago CSA.
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To be more precise, the "highly ambitious streak" from Canada usually relocates to the US pretty soon in their careers... (the result being, obviously, what you observe.)
In an alternate universe, someone like Elon Musk could easily have pursued his entire personal and professional life in Canada.
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ATLANTIC CANADA CMA POPULATIONS FOR JULY 1st 2023

Halifax (NS) - 518,711
St. John's (NL) - 232,039
Moncton (NB) - 178,791
Saint John (NB) - 138, 985
Fredericton (NB) - 119,059

The Moncton population is almost 10,000 greater than in 2022, meaning that our current population is probably about 188,000.

Moncton is probably within 15-18 months of breaking the 200,000 barrier.

And, to round out the Atlantic "big seven", here are the 2023 population figures for the two largest CAs:

CBRM (Sydney) NS - 109,962
Charlottetown PE - 90,648
I wonder if Fredericton will overtake Saint John in the next decade or so?
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I wonder if Fredericton will overtake Saint John in the next decade or so?
Much as I would love to see Freddy take the #2 spot in the province, I think Saint John has finally mostly managed to get its act together and has been recovering from the sluggish 90's/2000's.

So while Freddy is probably going to close the gap, I don't think it will ever pass SJ any time soon.
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Ottawa/Gatineau is officially bigger than Edmonton again. 1,609,000 and only 70,000 or so less than Calgary. It's incredible to see this kind of growth almost across the board for all major cities in Canada
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Ottawa/Gatineau is officially bigger than Edmonton again. 1,609,000 and only 70,000 or so less than Calgary. It's incredible to see this kind of growth almost across the board for all major cities in Canada
Appears that Ottawa benefited from an upward revision of previous years' estimates to retake 5th place (did it add a surrounding town into the CMA boundary?), as Edmonton recorded a considerably larger increase (relative to their gap) from 2022-2023. Interestingly Ottawa CMA is the only CMA over 1M to see its growth rate decrease from 2022.
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Not a joke, Brampton with an increase of 44,000 people last year alone (versus Toronto proper at 125k), is responsible for roughly 20% of Toronto CMA's total growth:

census subdivisions (roughly analagous to municipalities):
https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/t1/tbl1...pid=1710015501
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I can see Norfolk County but where is Haldimand on that list? It's gotta be over 50,000 by now.
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Almost all due to Dave Dingwall and his foreign student grift at CBU I imagine.
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