Austin | 6G | 874 Feet | 65 Floors | Complete

[AusTex]

I wholeheartedly agree about the long term. I also see the issue of building for the long term for the community. We the community, will also deal with the private decisions made for a very long time. We deserve a building that is sensitive to what we decide IS a whole historic block. I can only hope the covering of the parking podium will be appropriate for the community and the long term owners as well.

[Sigaven]

Maybe they can do a vertical green wall. That would look pretty incredible.

[KevinFromTexas]

One aspect of this blank wall that I've been thinking of is how will they maintain it? There is a pretty narrow easement between that wall and the house that likely makes it a bit prohibitive for maintenance. I don't doubt that maintenance will still be necessary even with it being blank, but if it had been designed with something that needed more maintenance more often, I just wonder how doable it would be. I'm not sure what the easement width is, but I know it's not much. It may even be less than a standard alley width, which is 20 feet.

[MichaelB]

Austin is a community, not just a development opportunity.
I am happy to force less hearted developers to help maintain the depth and quality of
architecture and place in my community and neighborhood.
It is well established in Federal case law that a historical designation is not a "taking" of property.
It is possible to be pro growth AND Pro Historical preservation.
When we loose all trace of our past , we loose a great depth of interest in our Urban environment. We also loose a great design tension that is created when we see periods exist next to each other.

[KevinFromTexas]

I understand, but the house isn't going anywhere. If anything, the tower being there is going to help to protect it from everything from wind, hail and sun damage to fire. What we lost was an ugly hotel and a parking lot that no one will miss. The argument and complaint here isn't what is being lost, but rather asking for better design quality for what we gain and a respect for what we still have. I like 6 X Guadalupe, but I agree that the parking podium could have been designed better. I think one issue here is that architects see cars and everything that comes with them with as much disdain as some of us here do, and that's being reflected a bit in their approach to how they plan and design for them including even how they design a garage facade.

[urbancore]

Originally Posted by MichaelB

Austin is a community, not just a development opportunity.
I am happy to force less hearted developers to help maintain the depth and quality of
architecture and place in my community and neighborhood.
It is well established in Federal case law that a historical designation is not a "taking" of property.
It is possible to be pro growth AND Pro Historical preservation.
When we loose all trace of our past , we loose a great depth of interest in our Urban environment. We also loose a great design tension that is created when we see periods exist next to each other.

I totally agree with forcing developers build what you want to see. I don't believe forcing home owners to sell their house for less than it's worth. This is a great read.

https://www.austinchronicle.com/news...arly-thwarted/

This is often a family's largest asset. They deserve the most they can get for it. This is the driving force behind the creation of the American middle class post WW2. This is a good listen as the importance of the value a home has to a family through the lens of the black community.
https://www.npr.org/2017/05/17/52882...ed-segregation

I "lean" toward the home owner over the public. The public better have a damn GREAT reason to take someone's property. We "feel" it's historic is not enough for me.

What is the "historic" nature of these houses, asking seriously? Old rich people are not historic, or we would just take all the houses in Pemberton, Judges Hill, Old Enfield and mark them historic (many already are), who does this benefit? Lower taxes for already wealthy Austinites?

Truly "historic" homes should be saved. I've said it a thousand times, Austin really doesn't have that much "history". We are a very young town, kind of a teenager really. San Antonio and Beaumont have a TON of history compared to Austin.

Its now mandatory all homes slated to be demoed go before the HLC if they built prior to 1970. All of them.

[austlar1]

The historic nature of this row of homes (er, offices) and other nearby structures behind the new 6xGuad project resides in the fact they are a spectacular examples of high end Victorian residential architecture that managed to survive into the modern era This row of three homes lined up on the gently sloping street overlooking downtown is one of the few truly inspiring 19th Century streetscapes in Austin or anywhere else in this state. It would be an act of civic vandalism to remove these buildings.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bremon...toric_District

[ILUVSAT]

Would you guys mind continuing this conversation in its own thread? Thanks.

[austlar1]

Originally Posted by ILUVSAT

Would you guys mind continuing this conversation in its own thread? Thanks.

No, this one works fine. Thanks for caring.

[The ATX]

This project is being built around a historical building, so a tangent discussion about historical structures is perfectly OK. But does anyone have a new photo showing the excavation? The pit must be close to bottoming out.

[Billy Cannon]

Originally Posted by The ATX

This project is being built around a historical building, so a tangent discussion about historical structures is perfectly OK. But does anyone have a new photo showing the excavation? The pit must be close to bottoming out.

Ask and you shall receive

https://imgur.com/a/fjmiGM6

[paul78701]

Originally Posted by Billy Cannon

Ask and you shall receive

https://imgur.com/a/fjmiGM6

I know the cranes have been approved, but is there yet a date for when they will go up? I don't recall seeing one.

[austlar1]

Mr. Gloom and Doom here. I'm pretty sure we are on the cusp of a major recession. They better hurry and build this monster, or we might end up with a big hole in the ground like in Chicago with the ill-timed Spire. https://www.chicagotribune.com/busin...322-story.html

[The ATX]

Originally Posted by Billy Cannon

Ask and you shall receive

https://imgur.com/a/fjmiGM6

Nice!

[The ATX]

Originally Posted by paul78701

I know the cranes have been approved, but is there yet a date for when they will go up? I don't recall seeing one.

The only source of info for when cranes are going up are right-of-way closure permits. So far no permit has been filed yet.

[The ATX]

Earlier this week by Somnio.


https://www.surlyhorns.com/board/ind...jects/page/12/

[SproutingTowers]

Looks like a coal mine.

[kingkirbythe....]

It does.

[Billy Cannon]

I walked by on Friday and they had tons of site activity. The guy at the gate said foundation had started and they were pouring concrete daily

[The ATX]

Originally Posted by Billy Cannon

I walked by on Friday and they had tons of site activity. The guy at the gate said foundation had started and they were pouring concrete daily

That's great.

If anyone has a photo they can post of the foundation/column work we can change the status to U/C.