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Originally Posted by jsbertram
in theory highway traffic that is just passing through the city is supposed to be using the ring road now that it exists.
However since 16th is officially part of the Trans Canada Highway system, people will continue to use it. even if they're just passing through town.
Maybe we need to relocate Motel Village to an intersection of Stoney / 16th?
And discourage touristy & travellers businesses from locating on 16th?
Except Peters Drive-In. Gotta have a burger & shake (or two) on the way home after a weekend skiing.
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I think the issue would also be GPS units for those not familiar with Calgary. In calculating the distance between the 16 Ave/Stoney Trail east and west interchanges, it's 24 km via 16 Ave and 43 km via Stoney Trail and the times are approximately the same (Google Maps give 1 minute less for 16 Ave without accounting for traffic congestion). Motel Village in its present location is enough to encourage people to take Stoney Trail
, I think people along the TCH would probably head towards Barlow Trail NE if looking to accommodations.
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Originally Posted by craner
How about an alternative TCH designation going west to east consisting of:
Crowchild - Shaganappi - JLB - McKnight
Would need to link Crowchild in the West and McKnight in the east with the TCH outside the city, and upgrade these roads obviously. Would likely require a portion of Northland Mall as well.
This would provide a through-city route for the TCH as well as an expressway for the north half of the city. Would also be closer to YYC than 16th. 16th could be developed into a more successful urban boulevard for businesses and residents. It could be signed as Highway 1A much like MacLeod is 2A.
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Your suggested Crowchild - Shaganappi - JLB - McKnight route would make a good Hwy 1A as opposed to 16 Ave. The city seems to be averse to signing urban roads with suffixed routes; Hwy 2A only goes as far north as Hwy 22X while the Hwy 1A connection between Crowchild Trail and 17 Ave SE via 14 St NW & 9 Ave S is long gone. If it’s signed as Hwy 1, connecting it Hwy 1E wouldn’t be too hard but it would be hard to connect with Hwy 1W without going way out of the way and losing any benefit to its current setup.
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Originally Posted by Joborule
Think it would be better to use the north route as Highway 1A, and link the TCH to Glenmore Trail in the SE, where it'll reconnect to the TCH west of the city via Sarcee Trail or Stoney Trail SW.
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Agreed! Personally, I think it would be good to have a free flow “city route” as well as Stoney Trail as the bypass alternative. Think Hwy 2 with Deerfoot being the city route and Stoney Trail still serving as the bypass. Class 6 Dangerous Goods (Toxic and Infectious Substances) are prohibited on the Glenmore Causeway but they could take Stoney Trail N; realistically they probably shouldn’t be going down 16 Ave either.
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Originally Posted by 5seconds
This was raised in 2009 as a potential for a long term plan for the east side of 22x.
Back in the 1950s there was a plan for Glenmore Trail to be an alternative Highway 1 route, though I don't think it went much beyond that decade.
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That’s unfortunate. If properly developed, Glenmore Trail could have served as a decent east-west alternative to 16 Ave. With the proposal to build a freeway along Hwy 560 between Stoney Trail and Langdon, I’m wondering if it would be more cost effective to link the Hwy 560 freeway with Hwy 1 somewhere between Langdon and Strathmore than expanding Hwy 22X in its entirety. Glenmore seems to offer more options for Calgary-bound TCH traffic than Hwy 22X.
Was the initial plan to use Glenmore Trail, or the shelved 50 Avenue Freeway? I saw some studies in the library a while back that proposed constructing a freeway along 50 Ave S from present-day Glenmore Trail/Mount Royal College to the eastern city limits and only resulted in Peigan Trail. Had that come into fruition, it could have been a feasible alternative.