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NYguy · #1 Posted **Feb 22, 2019, 1:34 AM**

https://www.forbes.com/sites/geoffwh.../#754213d77615

Grand Hyatt New York To Be Torn Down

Geoff Whitmore
February 21, 2019

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The Grand Hyatt was first built in 1919 as the Commodore Hotel. Constructed by the Bowman-Biltmore Hotels group as part of a complex of hotels and offices connected to Grand Central Terminal, the Commodore Hotel was meant to serve as a luxury hotel and received its name after the founder of the New York Central Railroad (NYCRR), “Commodore” Cornelius Vanderbilt. Today, visitors can see and pay tribute to the New York City railroad tycoon and the hotel’s fascinating origins.

Back then, the Commodore only had 2,000 rooms, one of which Albert Einstein stayed in for a period of three weeks in 1921. The success of the hotel resulted in a $3.4 million dollar refurbishment in the 1960s. The Commodore proved to be ahead of the hotel game, even becoming New York City’s first hotel to show in-room movies.

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However, the next decade brought financial troubles. No one knew if the hotel would close its doors permanently or sell. The answer became clear when newcomer Donald Trump struck a deal to purchase the Commodore Hotel.

On September 25, 1980, the hotel opened its pristine new doors as the Grand Hyatt New York. At first, New Yorkers hated the reflective glass façade, noting its ugliness and offensiveness to the area’s “character.”

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Despite a massive renovation in 2011, the plan to demolish the hotel is moving forward. The Grand Hyatt New York will stay open for guests until 2020.

In 2020, expect mass construction as a new 2,000,000 square-foot tower is erected. The new building (which will include a smaller hotel, office space and retail space) is being touted as a much-needed change in infrastructure to help boost the skyline’s image. However, for some, this is yet another crumbling stone in New York City’s interwoven history.

Made possible by rezoning laws, the new development will reach skyscraper levels. Other developments in the works as part of the rezoning plan include J.P. Morgan's new headquarters at 270 Park Avenue and Macklowe Properties' "Tower Fifth." In today’s fast-moving world, change is inevitable and is reaching new limits.

NYguy · #2 Posted **Feb 26, 2019, 8:14 PM**

As we contemplate what could and should go here, I find this model fascinating...

http://bauzeitgeist.blogspot.com/2012/09/

NYguy · #3 Posted **Mar 11, 2019, 1:40 AM**

https://www.instagram.com/p/BupDUaPg43t/

NYguy · #4 Posted **Mar 12, 2019, 8:38 PM**

Looks like RXR made a move on the Chrysler as well...

https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/a...der-new-owners

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Scott Rechler’s RXR Realty, which lost the bidding with an offer of about $150 million, had looked at turning the tower into a mixed-use property that would have included a hotel, according to the person, who wasn’t authorized to speak because the matter is private.

...RXR Realty is part of a team that plans to transform the nearby Grand Hyatt New York, the hotel that launched Donald Trump’s career as a real estate developer, into a new 2 million-square-foot tower with offices, retail and lodging. The team also includes developer TF Cornerstone and MSD Partners LP, the investment firm that manages money for Michael Dell and his family.

NYguy · #5 Posted **Mar 22, 2019, 3:37 AM**

https://www.instagram.com/p/BvSp0CUAUoC/

NYguy · #6 Posted **Apr 3, 2019, 4:45 PM**

That's a good read. I like the idea of a modern day Terminal City taking shape.

Also of note is what's planned for the Chrysler...
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...&postcount=298

Zapatan · #7 Posted **Feb 11, 2019, 3:05 AM**

With the amount of square footage, we could possibly see something like the sky needle. Not gonna lie, I would love that.

Some tapering and a spire could easily put this beyond Vanderbilt.

NYguy · #8 Posted **Feb 11, 2019, 3:27 AM**

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Originally Posted by Zapatan

With the amount of square footage, we could possibly see something like the sky needle. Not gonna lie, I would love that.

Some tapering and a spire could easily put this beyond Vanderbilt.

It wouldn't surprise me if they just started out wanting something higher than Vanderbilt. If it's within reach why not? That was the spirit of so many of the great tallest in the city
from the early part of last century.

I at least see this tower as an equal to One Vanderbilt, a sibling. Both will be connected to the very heart of the city and it's transit system. So will the Chase tower, but less so.

Those concepts from a few years ago, this on from SOM is almost indicative of what is taking shape. Remove the giant ring, and you've got it.

The Best Forumer · #9 Posted **Feb 18, 2019, 5:47 PM**

holy crap!!!!!! This is gorgeous!!!! Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

JMKeynes · #10 Posted **Feb 18, 2019, 6:53 PM**

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Originally Posted by The Best Forumer

holy crap!!!!!! This is gorgeous!!!! Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Is there a rendering?

The Best Forumer · #11 Posted **Feb 18, 2019, 7:14 PM**

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Originally Posted by JMKeynes

Is there a rendering?

there is but for some reason they are not coming out in my post.... ugh.

Sky88 · #12 Posted **Feb 18, 2019, 10:20 PM**

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Originally Posted by The Best Forumer

holy crap!!!!!! This is gorgeous!!!! Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The images can not be seen.

mrnyc · #13 Posted **Feb 11, 2019, 7:18 PM**

i have actually been wondering for a long time when this hyatt would be coming down.

question -- the old commodore hotel is still there under the 80s trump glass, is it not?

BoM Trespasser · #14 Posted **Feb 13, 2019, 9:09 PM**

The Graybar and the Chanin, how beautiful, and then 20 years later, shell-shocked Europeans came and slam! out with the Art-Deco, in with the International Boxes.

Busy Bee · #15 Posted **Feb 13, 2019, 9:27 PM**

^ That is not the history.

Zerton · #16 Posted **Feb 14, 2019, 12:07 AM**

Very Exciting. I didn't know the existing building was a reclad.

Does anyone know why the existing building has that huge smokestack structure? Some kind of ancient steam heating exhaust or something?

NYguy · #17 Posted **Feb 14, 2019, 3:40 AM**

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Originally Posted by Zerton

Very Exciting. I didn't know the existing building was a reclad.

Does anyone know why the existing building has that huge smokestack structure? Some kind of ancient steam heating exhaust or something?

I wondered about that.

Some old photos of the Commodore Hotel.

http://lostnewyorkcity.blogspot.com/...ore-hotel.html

https://www.flickr.com/photos/hollyw...ce/3085198793/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/hollyw...52099/sizes/h/

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/310959549244503856

http://www.sohu.com/a/249998875_187885