Manitoba Highways

[Jets4Life]

Originally Posted by jmt18325

The South, in comparison, has gotten billions over the same period. Since 2006, when the budget was raised, a combined total of over $5B has been spent on Manitoba's highways.

The South has over 95% of the population, so that is where the infrastructure spending should be concentrated on.

[bomberjet]

Nice shot AJ. There are some nice locations in Manitoba, even in the south, to get some nice views of the topography.

Driving out to Lac Du Bonnet a couple times this summer. There's a certain location along PR 317 where you get a great view over the landscape. If you're not paying attention, it is missed. Very subtle, but beautiful. Usually you can only see as far as the next farmyards trees.

[1ajs]

origonal pavement from the 70's was designed for heavy truck traffic

the mine has been closed since about 85?


gets allot of lime trucks in the summer going up it and allot of amaricans going out to pyta lake and dunphy 3
the worst highway is 391..... specificaly the paved portions

anyhow the province should extened this highway to sask would be a wise investment into the northern economy

[trebor204]

The Gov't of Manitoba has posted their Historical Highways Maps since the 1920s.

http://www.gov.mb.ca/mit/maparchive/...920covers.html

Interesting to see when highways were built and improved (from gravel to paved)

[Jets4Life]

Originally Posted by trebor204

The Gov't of Manitoba has posted their Historical Highways Maps since the 1920s.

http://www.gov.mb.ca/mit/maparchive/...920covers.html

Interesting to see when highways were built and improved (from gravel to paved)

This brings tears to my eyes.

Thank you, trebor204

[VANRIDERFAN]

Originally Posted by trebor204

The Gov't of Manitoba has posted their Historical Highways Maps since the 1920s.

http://www.gov.mb.ca/mit/maparchive/...920covers.html

Interesting to see when highways were built and improved (from gravel to paved)

The 20's maps had all the small towns and hamlets that have now disappeared. As a kid in the late 60's early 70's some of those places still warranted a road sign and there were grain elevators (abandoned though) at the sites.
I have vivid memories of the train tracks being torn up, elevators abandoned then moved, burned down or torn down and road signs disappearing. Amazing how much was built up and then torn down in 80 years.

[Roger Strong]

Originally Posted by VANRIDERFAN

The 20's maps had all the small towns and hamlets that have now disappeared.

Keep in mind that there may never have been a small town or hamlet any more than there is now. It may have just been a local post office, run out of someone's house, and the house may still exist.

Wilson, Ontario in the Ottawa Valley still shows up on Google Maps. It's just a couple houses on the side of the road. That's all there ever was, but my grandmother was the local postmaster back around the 1940s.

[1ajs]

the roads need allot more work but its definatly seen an improvement the north overall needs allot of work from roads to education to get the economy rolling see what happens over the next decade if it begins to thrive again it will be good for the south

theres a new bridge going up on the 391 right now between leaf and lynn lake

[esquire]

^ On that note, I was looking at the Manitoba AADT map the other day and I have to say, there really aren't that many obvious candidates for twinning. It basically comes down to a smattering of PTHs in and around Winnipeg and Steinbach (the most glaring need is McGillivray Blvd to the Perimeter), PTH 59 up to Grand Beach, PTH 15 to Dugald and then the 10 from Brandon to Minnedosa. I have to admit I was a bit surprised, but for the most part the highways in Manitoba that need to be twinned already are.

The sweet spot for highway improvements are things like surfacing, shoulder improvement, intersection improvement, passing lanes, etc. Which is pretty well where most of the attention has been focused in recent years. A few more interchanges would be helpful too, but it sounds like that's coming.

[jmt18325]

Originally Posted by esquire

then the 10 from Brandon to Minnedosa.

On most days, the new passing lanes are fine, with one caveat - they don't allow people to pass on the side without the passing lane in Manitoba when there's no traffic on the other side. In Saskatchewan and a few other places, they allow that. It's far more efficient.

[optimusREIM]

Originally Posted by esquire

^ On that note, I was looking at the Manitoba AADT map the other day and I have to say, there really aren't that many obvious candidates for twinning. It basically comes down to a smattering of PTHs in and around Winnipeg and Steinbach (the most glaring need is McGillivray Blvd to the Perimeter), PTH 59 up to Grand Beach, PTH 15 to Dugald and then the 10 from Brandon to Minnedosa. I have to admit I was a bit surprised, but for the most part the highways in Manitoba that need to be twinned already are.

The sweet spot for highway improvements are things like surfacing, shoulder improvement, intersection improvement, passing lanes, etc. Which is pretty well where most of the attention has been focused in recent years. A few more interchanges would be helpful too, but it sounds like that's coming.

I would add 59 south to St Pierre, or at least to the junction of PTH 52, which is an absolute shit show during most parts of the day. I agree on the interchanges too, although that can't happen fast enough. There are many other areas that warrant improvement too.

[OTA in Winnipeg]

Originally Posted by optimusREIM

I would add 59 south to St Pierre, or at least to the junction of PTH 52, which is an absolute shit show during most parts of the day. I agree on the interchanges too, although that can't happen fast enough. There are many other areas that warrant improvement too.

TCH from Falcon Lake to the Ontario border. Ontario is twinning from the border to Kenora hopefully by 2020:

http://www.mto.gov.on.ca/english/hig...-2016-2020.pdf

[bomberjet]

Originally Posted by OTA in Winnipeg

TCH from Falcon Lake to the Ontario border. Ontario is twinning from the border to Kenora hopefully by 2020:

http://www.mto.gov.on.ca/english/hig...-2016-2020.pdf

There is a concerted effort between both Manitoba and Ontario on the twinning of Hwy 1 in the Whiteshell. Kind of like both projects are linked and would happen at similar timelines. Although I haven't heard squat recently on either.

[wave46]

Originally Posted by bomberjet

There is a concerted effort between both Manitoba and Ontario on the twinning of Hwy 1 in the Whiteshell. Kind of like both projects are linked and would happen at similar timelines. Although I haven't heard squat recently on either.

I believe the Ontario portion is bogged down in negotiations with the Native bands along the route.

That, and I suspect the government isn't pushing for it now with the limitations on the budget.

[optimusREIM]

Originally Posted by OTA in Winnipeg

TCH from Falcon Lake to the Ontario border. Ontario is twinning from the border to Kenora hopefully by 2020:

http://www.mto.gov.on.ca/english/hig...-2016-2020.pdf

That's really unexpected actually, I always figured it would take decades before we saw any movement.

[rrskylar]

Originally Posted by optimusREIM

That's really unexpected actually, I always figured it would take decades before we saw any movement.

Considering the number of deaths and volume of traffic on that stretch it really should have been twinned thirty years ago!

[wave46]

Originally Posted by esquire

^ On that note, I was looking at the Manitoba AADT map the other day and I have to say, there really aren't that many obvious candidates for twinning. It basically comes down to a smattering of PTHs in and around Winnipeg and Steinbach (the most glaring need is McGillivray Blvd to the Perimeter), PTH 59 up to Grand Beach, PTH 15 to Dugald and then the 10 from Brandon to Minnedosa. I have to admit I was a bit surprised, but for the most part the highways in Manitoba that need to be twinned already are.

The sweet spot for highway improvements are things like surfacing, shoulder improvement, intersection improvement, passing lanes, etc. Which is pretty well where most of the attention has been focused in recent years. A few more interchanges would be helpful too, but it sounds like that's coming.

Yeah, twinning is pretty cheap in southern Manitoba, so it gets done quickly. On a per-dollar basis, it is likely the best value to improving safety, as it eliminates reckless passing and head-on collisions. There is a point where twinning no longer cuts it and at-grade intersections should be eliminated, which is where they are at with the Perimeter.

Generally IMO, government functions pretty well in this country. Aside from a few stupid boondoggles, we generally don't overbuild and temper our enthusiasm with a healthy dose of pragmatism.

[Jets4Life]

Originally Posted by esquire

^ On that note, I was looking at the Manitoba AADT map the other day and I have to say, there really aren't that many obvious candidates for twinning. It basically comes down to a smattering of PTHs in and around Winnipeg and Steinbach (the most glaring need is McGillivray Blvd to the Perimeter), PTH 59 up to Grand Beach, PTH 15 to Dugald and then the 10 from Brandon to Minnedosa. I have to admit I was a bit surprised, but for the most part the highways in Manitoba that need to be twinned already are.

The sweet spot for highway improvements are things like surfacing, shoulder improvement, intersection improvement, passing lanes, etc. Which is pretty well where most of the attention has been focused in recent years. A few more interchanges would be helpful too, but it sounds like that's coming.

Twinning:

1. #14 (Winkler-#75)
2. #15 (Winnipeg-Dugald)
3. #155 (Mcgillivary-Oak Bluff)
4. #59 (extent to #52 then divide to Mitchell, and extend twinning to Grand Beach exit)
5. #6 (Winnipeg-St.Laurent)

I would also build a highway from Oakbank to Transcona.

[VANRIDERFAN]

Originally Posted by esquire

The sweet spot for highway improvements are things like surfacing, shoulder improvement, intersection improvement, passing lanes, etc. Which is pretty well where most of the attention has been focused in recent years. A few more interchanges would be helpful too, but it sounds like that's coming.

When I was back home this past month, I was driving on Highway 23 just outside of Ninette and the highways dept was attempting to patch the crumbling pavement on the transition zone between pavement and gravel. To me these patches will not last the first freeze up and there will be more large pieces of asphalt breaking off and causing hazards.

Anyway hopefully those roads will get some major treatment over the next decade. Good to hear about the interchanges (if true). Does that mean Brandon as well?

[esquire]

^ Yes, I would agree... 59 down to St. Pierre and 52 from Steinbach to 59 probably need to be done sooner rather than later as well... I considered those as falling in the "Winnipeg and Steinbach area" catch-all.