ATLANTA TRANSIT (Marta, Beltline, Peachtree Streetcar, LovJoy Commuter, etc...)

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

I don't think that sidewalk on Mayson is meant to be considered part of the Beltline. I think they just realized ending the Beltline at a road with no sidewalks was not very smart and fixed that issue. I assumed the beltline was eventually gonna go the other way and bridge over the railroad tracks somehow.

[newuserbuckhead]

https://beltline.org/2021/03/04/nort...ail-segment-3/

https://beltline.org/the-project/design-construction/

https://atlanta.urbanize.city/post/a...retch-now-open

Agreed, it looks like the actual trail will "turn left" at Mayson street, or potentially just continue straight ahead, to get under MARTA and then up and over the rail tracks.

https://www.google.com/maps/@33.8096...8192?entry=ttu

[Julien]

Originally Posted by newuserbuckhead

Agreed, it looks like the actual trail will "turn left" at Mayson street, or potentially just continue straight ahead, to get under MARTA and then up and over the rail tracks.

I had looked at the plans and kinda assumed they were just preliminary. I even went under the MARTA bridge (a couple of years ago) to look for myself and there is no extra land between the MARTA elevation and the RR tracks to put the Trail on.

However after looking closer it may be that the east side tracks are no longer used (it is an I85 of tracks) and can be reclaimed (something I didn't account for). Even so to cross requires a bridge about 20' (15' clearance) and at a standard 6% grade will require a ramp about 190' long. Looks like it will fit but probably not a lot of extra space to work with.

[testarossa50]

They’ll require around 24’ above top of rail. Typical side clearance is 25’ from centerline of the track but that can be fudged a little by exception. Either way, it’s an incredibly challenging crossing with a pedestrian path, let alone a streetcar.

[ArchKid]

Look these videos：Kaohsiung Light Rail Circular Line
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZVLA-wikGU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFXTLS_Yg9M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DdFKCsXEx4
Kaohsiung Light Rail Circular Line is also a commuter loop. It's like the Beltline streetcar. So maybe Atlanta needs to build this streetcar system in the future......

Kaohsiung Light Rail Circular Line route map：As shown by the green line，it is a closed loop.
http://alumy.yusor.com/LRRT.htm

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Kaohsiung Light Rail Circular Line uses streetcars without overhead wires(CAF Urbos 3).So no need to cut down the trees！
When the train drives through the trees, it looks like a scene from Hayao Miyazaki's My Neighbor Totoro Tunnel.
https://udn.com/news/story/6967/7782896
https://www.instagram.com/ghiblilog/p/Cb9qvRFAxuN/

Please look this video:
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/QFMTEP_dvao

[Street Advocate]

Originally Posted by GeorgiaPeanuts

I don't think that sidewalk on Mayson is meant to be considered part of the Beltline. I think they just realized ending the Beltline at a road with no sidewalks was not very smart and fixed that issue. I assumed the beltline was eventually gonna go the other way and bridge over the railroad tracks somehow.

Yep! It’s a connection to the BeltLine, not the BeltLine trail.

[shivtim]

Atlanta BeltLine’s proposed rail is at a crossroads

Then comes a laundry list of reasons why, per Baisiwala, light-rail vehicles on the BeltLine’s Eastside Trail aren’t the best use of resources: Just a fraction of metro Atlanta’s office space is located on the BeltLine today; transit ridership is stagnant or “falling off a cliff” in American cities; and the BeltLine’s trail-meets-trains vision, famously cooked up by Georgia Tech grad student Ryan Gravel, came in 1999, or “eight years before the iPhone was invented,” Baisiwala says, hinting at a dated technology.

“We need a transit solution for all of Atlanta,” says Baisiwala in a follow-up interview. “The extension of the [downtown] streetcar on the BeltLine does not address the transit issues, will be very challenging to complete, and will take decades—all of this assuming the funding could be procured.”

I didn't realize the Portman CEO was anti-transit. That's extremely disappointing. Luckily our mayor, city council, MARTA, and the Beltline CEO are all aboard the light rail expansion.

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

Easy for him to proclaim from his golden tower that Atliens don't need transit, when I pass daily by the Publix in midtown and see many of its workers are walking over from the Midtown marta station.

[ArchKid]

Originally Posted by ArchKid

Look these videos：Kaohsiung Light Rail Circular Line
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZVLA-wikGU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFXTLS_Yg9M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DdFKCsXEx4
Kaohsiung Light Rail Circular Line is also a commuter loop. It's like the Beltline streetcar. So maybe Atlanta needs to build this streetcar system in the future......

Kaohsiung Light Rail Circular Line route map：As shown by the green line，it is a closed loop.
http://alumy.yusor.com/LRRT.htm

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Kaohsiung Light Rail Circular Line uses streetcars without overhead wires(CAF Urbos 3).So no need to cut down the trees！
When the train drives through the trees, it looks like a scene from Hayao Miyazaki's My Neighbor Totoro Tunnel.
https://udn.com/news/story/6967/7782896
https://www.instagram.com/ghiblilog/p/Cb9qvRFAxuN/

Please look this video:
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/QFMTEP_dvao

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

https://www.ajc.com/news/atlanta-new...H2UGVY73X6GCI/

Mayor Dickens announces 4 new infill Marta stations will be built. The first will go at Murphy's Crossing.

My dream list for the other 3 would be an extension of the green line to Huff Rd/West Midtown and Atlantic Station reconnecting back to the Yellow/Red so green line can be converted into a circular route, and a station around the North end of Midtown/south Brookwood.

[tinyslam]

Let's go! I'm very excited for more marta stations. I think one at Murphy's Crossing makes a lot of sense as that walk from West End to the beltline isn't great. Now we need to take this momentum and build the streetcar along the southside beltline with an easy transfer at the new infill station. We'll see where the other 3 infill stations go, but I don't think they would be any kind of extension to West Midtown. That needs to be a new expansion though. I'd take it all the way up to the Battery eventually.

[shivtim]

This is great. I wonder where the funding is coming from? I thought they axed the infill stations from "More MARTA" due to lack of funding.

[testarossa50]

Originally Posted by GeorgiaPeanuts

https://www.ajc.com/news/atlanta-new...H2UGVY73X6GCI/

Mayor Dickens announces 4 new infill Marta stations will be built. The first will go at Murphy's Crossing.

My dream list for the other 3 would be an extension of the green line to Huff Rd/West Midtown and Atlantic Station reconnecting back to the Yellow/Red so green line can be converted into a circular route, and a station around the North end of Midtown/south Brookwood.

This is huge news if it comes to fruition.

Anyone want to take bets on the rest?

Armour
Hulsey
Uptown
Adair
???

[Cirrus]

Can someone make a google map of where this will go?

I can't believe AJC published this article without a map.

[testarossa50]

Originally Posted by Cirrus

Can someone make a google map of where this will go?

I can't believe AJC published this article without a map.

1050 Murphy Ave SE for this particular station.

Urbanize will probably post an article with a proper map soon. Amazing how much more coherently they explain what's happening than traditional media.

[Cirrus]

HERE IS A MAP

[testarossa50]

Originally Posted by Cirrus

HERE IS A MAP

To be clear, besides Murphy, those are educated guesses (basically overlapping with mine, with the exception of Boone).

[shivtim]

This is outdated but shows Murphy Crossing as a proposed infill station (the Southernmost of the four yellow dots).

[shivtim]

So, rumor is that these MARTA infill stations are being built INSTEAD of Beltline rail. A deal between the mayor and MARTA. Not confirmed but this certainly seems to be the case. We need more substantial pushback against the wealthy NIMBYs who hate transit.

[Martinman]

Originally Posted by shivtim

This is great. I wonder where the funding is coming from? I thought they axed the infill stations from "More MARTA" due to lack of funding.

Good question.

I'm highly in favor of infill stations but I was not aware that the mayor gets to make unilateral transportation decisions?