SAN ANTONIO │ Hotel Sul Fiume │ 204 FT │ 17 FLOORS │ Proposed - Page 2

SA Erudite · #1 Posted **Jun 20, 2019, 2:35 PM**

How can we dissolve the HDRC

JACKinBeantown · #2 Posted **Jun 20, 2019, 3:52 PM**

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Originally Posted by SA Erudite

How can we dissolve the HDRC

The definition of erudite is "having or showing knowledge that is gained by studying." I suggest you study up on the HDRC's mission and history, and the effects it has had on improving building quality in San Antonio, before making your second post.

Restless One · #3 Posted **Jun 20, 2019, 9:40 PM**

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Originally Posted by JACKinBeantown

The definition of erudite is "having or showing knowledge that is gained by studying." I suggest you study up on the HDRC's mission and history, and the effects it has had on improving building quality in San Antonio, before making your second post.

Might have been sarcasm on SA Erudite's part. Possibly, not sure, but maybe?

JACKinBeantown · #4 Posted **Jun 21, 2019, 3:32 AM**

Let's see his/her second post.

Restless One · #5 Posted **Jun 21, 2019, 3:51 AM**

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Originally Posted by JACKinBeantown

Let's see his/her second post.

Just saying, he/she might be erudite, but lacking in the skill of sarcasm. Certainly, subsequent posts might shed light on the situation.

JACKinBeantown · #6 Posted **Jun 21, 2019, 12:59 PM**

The anticipation for post #2 has us on the edge of our seats!

AwesomeSAView · #7 Posted **Jun 21, 2019, 11:05 PM**

When is the next meeting for conceptual approval for this project??
Anyone??

Montirob · #8 Posted **Jun 24, 2019, 2:52 PM**

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Originally Posted by AwesomeSAView

When is the next meeting for conceptual approval for this project??
Anyone??

Today.

Last week's meeting was postponed due to lack of a quorum. (Interestingly enough, an agenda item is to review the meeting dates of the HDRC)

sirkingwilliam · #9 Posted **Jun 25, 2019, 3:07 AM**

The project was approved.

KevinFromTexas · #10 Posted **Jun 26, 2019, 9:56 PM**

I did a Google Earth model for it and grabbed a few screenshots to post here.

Montirob · #11 Posted **Jun 26, 2019, 11:46 PM**

NICE, Kevin!

While I actually like the mid-60's rectory, and while I hope the hotel's design will be improved a bit (I like the curtainwall the best, and I see how they are trying to mimic the rhythms of the church with the stucco/stone), I think it is a good replacement. It's presence on the north side of the river won't impact sunlight access to the Riverwalk, and it is an appropriate height for this infill lot.

It's amazing that when they built the Weston hotel, I was excited at its "height".

Fryguy · #12 Posted **Jun 27, 2019, 1:06 AM**

I don't think it's going to be taller than the Courtyard, sadly.

JACKinBeantown · #13 Posted **Jun 27, 2019, 1:59 AM**

Yes, nice work, Kevin.

I was looking at the Weston too... thinking how it's too bad they didn't stack the two parts and make it twice as tall. But whatever, it filled up a lot of space on a narrow block.

SAguy · #14 Posted **Nov 28, 2019, 9:22 PM**

SA Express News- 11/27/19

Hotel Sul Fiume

This summer, the city’s Historic and Design Review Commission gave its initial approval to plans to tear down the rectory at St. Mary’s Catholic Church downtown and construct a 14-story, 147-room hotel dubbed Hotel Sul Fiume, or Hotel on the River in Italian.

The group proposing the project, SMS-SAR Hospitality LLC, includes developer Anthony Byron and the U.S. Province of the Missionary Oblates of Mary Immaculate. The Archdiocese of San Antonio would lease the property next to the church to the developer, and a new rectory and office with a separate entrance would be built for the church inside the hotel.

An unidentified hotel brand would manage the property, and renderings also show a restaurant and a cafe or retail space in the building. The archdiocese directed questions to Byron, who didn’t respond to inquiries.

Tornado · #15 Posted **Dec 3, 2019, 1:41 PM**

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SA Express News- 11/27/19

The Archdiocese of San Antonio would lease the property next to the church to the developer, and a new rectory and office with a separate entrance would be built for the church inside the hotel.

This part interests me. Can the Archdiocese dictate what activities/convention hotel groups, etc stay or do business at the hotel?

Not wanting to turn this into a political discussion but genuinely interested in if they can dictate in the land lease what can or can't be done with the property. Maybe some of the commercial real estate or attorneys on here could chime in.

AwesomeSAView · #16 Posted **Dec 3, 2019, 4:36 PM**

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Originally Posted by Tornado

This part interests me. Can the Archdiocese dictate what activities/convention hotel groups, etc stay or do business at the hotel?

Not wanting to turn this into a political discussion but genuinely interested in if they can dictate in the land lease what can or can't be done with the property. Maybe some of the commercial real estate or attorneys on here could chime in.

The Catholic Church is VERY POWERFUL!!!!!

AMEN!!!

deeger · #17 Posted **Apr 23, 2020, 1:23 PM**

An update on potential groundbreaking:
https://www.virtualbx.com/constructi...breaking-date/

Tornado · #18 Posted **Apr 23, 2020, 4:04 PM**

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Originally Posted by deeger

An update on potential groundbreaking:
https://www.virtualbx.com/constructi...breaking-date/

Thx for the update. I'm interested to see if hotel development is stifled for a bit due to everything going on. How long will it take for occupancy rates to recover?

SAhometown · #19 Posted **May 11, 2020, 1:28 AM**

This project is on the next HDRC agenda.

UltraDanPrime · #20 Posted **May 13, 2020, 12:25 AM**

Big fan of this one! Seems like since the Frost, we've been getting more modern, more glass. It's really quite refreshing! I really like how the new, modern buildings will complement the old architecture we have here, & also I think it'll nullify some of the "HDRC beige" buildings here as well.