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Originally Posted by Bluenote
You do understand how global warming works right ?
It doesn't mean it will be warmer here. It may just get a lot colder in fact. It's not the co2 up there that's just warming the entire planet. It's the oceans that are warming. When that happens the ocean currents change and don't bring that nice tropical air that warms the planet up in the norther hemisphere.
Think England. It should be a bitter cold place like us in winter. It isn't. Thanks to those ocean currents.
If the water changes its temp enough those warm currents will shift. And that can mean disaster for places like England. As they will start to get a cold climate like here. Same as Vancouver. These are all places artificially warmed by ocean currents.
The ocean is like a big dark blue heat absorbing blanket. The more it absorbs. The worse it will be. Hence the polar ice caps melting isn't just about sea rise lvl. The more dark blue ocean we expose the worse for the climate.
Amd the polar ice caps are shrinking.
It's also documented through those ice cores that this has happened before. Due to volcanic eruptions . But one worrying thing that can happen is the ocean currents shut down completely. When that happens and it has before. Then we are thrown into An ice age.
So no matter what happens. We are fucking up the natural cycle of the planet faster then ever before.
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You make several points. The purpose of my post was not to deny that global warming is occurring, but to point out that that past winter and the spring so far have only been roughly in accordance with historical averages.
Even if there were no humans on the planet the climate would be warming as we are coming out of the Little Ice Age which ended around the middle of the 19th century. Human activity is accelerating the warming.
It is certain that the oceans are warming. Some suggest that the warming oceans will result in a slowing of the jet stream resulting in a slowing of "weather" so to speak. This will most likely result in more extreme weather. Global warming will not affect all locations equally. The highest latitudes will experience the greatest warming. Although our past winter was roughly seasonal in terms of average temperatures, it was unusually marked by, give or take, 2 week periods of weather that was either 10 degrees above seasonal or 10 degrees below. As I write, the temperature is about 12 or 13 degrees below the seasonal norm. If this was July it would be 14° today, extremely chilly.
As for the UK, more so than proximity to the ocean, it is the Gulf Stream that keeps the country much warmer than the latitude would suggest. London is at the same latitude as Gimli, Edinburgh is as far north as Thompson, yet both have temperate climates similar to Vancouver Island, though not nearly as wet. If the Gulf Stream weakens, it is expected that the climate of NW Europe will become significantly colder, especially in winter. In contrast, Halifax, which is, within a degree or so, nearly as far south as the French Riviera, has a climate not as influenced by the Gulf Stream and has much colder winters. A similar phenomenon occurs on Asia's east coast. Vladivostok is as far south as Nice but despite its coastal location has winters nearly as cold as Winnipeg, and colder than Minneapolis.
From a personal perspective, and with a memory going back quite a number of decades, the climate is certainly not warming here. The summers in particular seem colder than I remember. I'll look back on the records, but the extended heat waves (32° or above for 3+ days) do not seem to occur as regularly. The real hot days (35°+) also seem to occur less frequently.
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