HomeDiagramsDatabaseMapsForum About
     

Go Back   SkyscraperPage Forum > Regional Sections > Canada


Reply

 
Thread Tools Display Modes
     
     
  #13741  
Old Posted Jan 24, 2020, 3:13 AM
urbandreamer's Avatar
urbandreamer urbandreamer is offline
recession proof
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 1,925
I personally preferred the Queen-King & Spadina area in the 90s.

Edge Architects has a new design for their soon to launch project at Princess and Dorset Streets in Uptown Waterloo:
https://www.therecord.com/news-story...g-in-the-core/
__________________
I'd rather be homeless than live in a condo...but I do like watching attractive ones get built...like Woodwards, 42 in Waterloo, and anything by Daoust/Saucier+Perrotte/Nomade/aA/Teeple

Last edited by urbandreamer; Jan 24, 2020 at 3:36 AM.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #13742  
Old Posted Jan 24, 2020, 3:47 AM
Chadillaccc's Avatar
Chadillaccc Chadillaccc is online now
ARTchitecture
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Cold Garden
Posts: 20,894
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jamaican-Phoenix View Post
Apparently Ottawa is getting a new library, and it's ugly as sin.
How is this ugly as sin? It'll probably be the 2nd or 3rd nicest modern-day library in the country if it turns out as rendered.







https://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/take-a-fir...rary-1.4780494
__________________
Strong & free

'My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we’ll change the world.' — Jack Layton
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #13743  
Old Posted Jan 24, 2020, 3:52 AM
isaidso isaidso is offline
The New Republic
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: United Provinces of America
Posts: 9,709
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chadillaccc View Post
How is this ugly as sin? It'll probably be the 2nd or 3rd nicest modern-day library in the country if it turns out as rendered.
I wouldn't call it ugly but they could do a lot better imo. The one in Halifax is much nicer. Surely the nation's capital can build something more fitting for a capital. Ottawa forgets that it's not Belleville all too often.
__________________
World's First Documented Baseball Game: Beachville, Ontario, June 4th, 1838.
World's First Documented Gridiron Game: University College, Toronto, November 9th, 1861.
Hamilton Tiger-Cats since 1869 & Toronto Argonauts since 1873: North America's 2 oldest pro football teams
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #13744  
Old Posted Jan 24, 2020, 4:17 AM
csbvan's Avatar
csbvan csbvan is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 2,274
I think it's quite nice, but in a high-quality condo podium way. It isn't thrilling, it is safe, but it's nice overall and will be a good project for Ottawa.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #13745  
Old Posted Jan 24, 2020, 9:48 AM
LilZebra's Avatar
LilZebra LilZebra is offline
Spiritual
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Winnipeg, Man.
Posts: 2,706
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jamaican-Phoenix View Post
Apparently Ottawa is getting a new library, and it's ugly as sin.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chadillaccc View Post
How is this ugly as sin? It'll probably be the 2nd or 3rd nicest modern-day library in the country if it turns out as rendered.

https://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/take-a-fir...rary-1.4780494
Kinda matches the architecture of the Cdn. Museum of Civilization you already have.

Looks fine to me.
__________________
Visit LilZebra.ca
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #13746  
Old Posted Jan 24, 2020, 3:50 PM
O-tacular's Avatar
O-tacular O-tacular is offline
Fake News
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Calgary
Posts: 17,262
I don't find it ugly, but I think it's uninspired and conservative. The inside looks like a typical 80's or 90's library with updated materials. I like the outside form except for the blank wall street interaction.
__________________
Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. - Voltaire

https://clockzillakingoflaval.tumblr.com
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #13747  
Old Posted Jan 24, 2020, 4:42 PM
TorontoDrew's Avatar
TorontoDrew TorontoDrew is online now
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 7,201
I like it, it also gives me n 80's maybe even 70's vibe.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #13748  
Old Posted Jan 24, 2020, 5:49 PM
TorontoDrew's Avatar
TorontoDrew TorontoDrew is online now
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 7,201
I often read the articles on Buffalo Rising. I have a soft spot for the Queen City even with all of it's faults. The people are really nice and it's nice to read their opinions of what goes on north of the border. Anyway they wrote about the MCC proposal. I think the comment section is the best though.

https://www.buffalorising.com/2020/0...toronto-style/

Mall Redevelopment: Toronto Style
by Buffalo RisingBuffalo Rising January 22, 2020, 1:24 pm

Reuse of dying malls is a timely topic, see Boulevard, Eastern Hills and most likely, McKinley Mall in this area. In suburban Toronto, a developer is revamping one of Canada’s most successful malls: Square One Shopping Centre in Mississauga, Canada’s sixth-largest city.

Oxford Properties and Alberta Investment Management Corporation are planning to transform 130 acres around the mall into an18 million square foot master planned mixed-use community, giving the booming suburb a ‘downtown.’ The planned Square One District is the largest mixed-use downtown development in Canadian history. What is today swaths of parking lots will be transformed into a vibrant community that will eventually comprise more than 18,000 residential units, a transit mobility hub connected to the Hurontario LRT, community buildings, parks, green spaces and office space. All of which will be anchored by Square One Shopping Centre, one of the best performing malls in Canada.


full story: https://www.buffalorising.com/2020/0...toronto-style/
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #13749  
Old Posted Jan 24, 2020, 7:21 PM
Jamaican-Phoenix's Avatar
Jamaican-Phoenix Jamaican-Phoenix is offline
R2-D2's army of death
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Downtown Ottawa
Posts: 3,556
Chadillaccc, The limestone is highly distracting. It doesn't 'flow' with the roof and draws attention from it, resulting in the eye being drawn to the drab and rigid limestone lines.

It looks like someone tried to do a makeover on a brutalist building, but it was their first attempt. Also, this is Ottawa. It never turns out as rendered.
__________________
Franky: Ajldub, name calling is what they do when good arguments can't be found - don't sink to their level. Claiming the thread is "boring" is also a way to try to discredit a thread that doesn't match their particular bias.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #13750  
Old Posted Jan 24, 2020, 7:40 PM
HomeInMyShoes's Avatar
HomeInMyShoes HomeInMyShoes is offline
arf
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Pile 'O Bones
Posts: 12,209
I believe Edmonton is the only city able to complain about "not exactly as rendered".
__________________

-- “We heal each other with kindness, gentleness and respect.” -- Richard Wagamese
-- “Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, Nothing is going to get better. It's not.” -- Dr. Seuss
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #13751  
Old Posted Jan 24, 2020, 7:55 PM
Chadillaccc's Avatar
Chadillaccc Chadillaccc is online now
ARTchitecture
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Cold Garden
Posts: 20,894
No city is immune to it, but yes, Edmonton and Ottawa seem to be standouts lately with prominent buildings (Claridge Icon, Milner Library, Rogers Place, etc). Though the Legends tower at Edmonton's Ice District turned out better than rendered, so that's a great example.
__________________
Strong & free

'My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we’ll change the world.' — Jack Layton
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #13752  
Old Posted Jan 24, 2020, 8:05 PM
Hali87 Hali87 is online now
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 3,284
Quote:
Originally Posted by O-tacular View Post
I don't find it ugly, but I think it's uninspired and conservative. The inside looks like a typical 80's or 90's library with updated materials. I like the outside form except for the blank wall street interaction.
The Vancouver, Surrey, Calgary, and Halifax libraries are all major civic monuments and each one is very architecturally coherent and distinctive. The Ottawa proposal just looks like a nice, functional library with nice finishes (and also kind of like an airport). It seems like it's more the new O-Train stations that are filling the kind of civic-architectural niche that the Central Library does in Halifax.

Something I like about the Ottawa one is that it's an integrated library/archives. I wonder why this isn't done more - the Halifax municipal archives are in a random industrial park strip mall with bad hours and from a practical point of view aren't very accessible to the general public. The NS archives on the other hand are in their own large-ish building on Dal campus.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #13753  
Old Posted Jan 24, 2020, 8:27 PM
J.OT13's Avatar
J.OT13 J.OT13 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Ottawa
Posts: 10,026
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hali87 View Post
The Vancouver, Surrey, Calgary, and Halifax libraries are all major civic monuments and each one is very architecturally coherent and distinctive. The Ottawa proposal just looks like a nice, functional library with nice finishes (and also kind of like an airport). It seems like it's more the new O-Train stations that are filling the kind of civic-architectural niche that the Central Library does in Halifax.

Something I like about the Ottawa one is that it's an integrated library/archives. I wonder why this isn't done more - the Halifax municipal archives are in a random industrial park strip mall with bad hours and from a practical point of view aren't very accessible to the general public. The NS archives on the other hand are in their own large-ish building on Dal campus.
The only other place where this was done was in Montréal with La Grande Bibliothèque. Guy Berthiaume was an integral part of both projects (as head of National Library and Archives, first for the Province of Québec (where National means Provincial), then for the Feds in Ottawa.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grande_Biblioth%C3%A8que
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_Berthiaume
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #13754  
Old Posted Jan 24, 2020, 9:14 PM
TorontoDrew's Avatar
TorontoDrew TorontoDrew is online now
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 7,201
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jamaican-Phoenix View Post
Chadillaccc, The limestone is highly distracting. It doesn't 'flow' with the roof and draws attention from it, resulting in the eye being drawn to the drab and rigid limestone lines.

It looks like someone tried to do a makeover on a brutalist building, but it was their first attempt. Also, this is Ottawa. It never turns out as rendered.

I'm not getting anything from what you are saying when I look at it. I'm sorry the design has some way of making your eyeballs move away the roof-line which was clearly designed to draw your eyes upwards. You should also do a little research on what the Brutalist movement was all about, You will never find flowing curves in a Brutalist design.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #13755  
Old Posted Jan 24, 2020, 9:15 PM
ac888yow's Avatar
ac888yow ac888yow is offline
Melissa: fabulous.
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: YOW/CYOW/CUUP
Posts: 2,095
Video for the new Ottawa library.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmceZQKDbt0
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #13756  
Old Posted Jan 24, 2020, 11:42 PM
isaidso isaidso is offline
The New Republic
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: United Provinces of America
Posts: 9,709
Quote:
Originally Posted by csbvan View Post
I think it's quite nice, but in a high-quality condo podium way. It isn't thrilling, it is safe, but it's nice overall and will be a good project for Ottawa.
I don't disagree but shouldn't a national capital aspire to more than that? Hell, shouldn't all cities be aspirational? If one's building one's own house, 'not thrilling' is fine, but when it's a public building they should go the extra mile.
__________________
World's First Documented Baseball Game: Beachville, Ontario, June 4th, 1838.
World's First Documented Gridiron Game: University College, Toronto, November 9th, 1861.
Hamilton Tiger-Cats since 1869 & Toronto Argonauts since 1873: North America's 2 oldest pro football teams
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #13757  
Old Posted Jan 24, 2020, 11:47 PM
LeftCoaster's Avatar
LeftCoaster LeftCoaster is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Toroncouver
Posts: 11,741
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chadillaccc View Post
Luckily a guy on Skyrise just randomly did the numbers. Well over 4000 units for Downtown/Beltline alone. Doesn't include the 2 to 3000 units in the rest of the inner ring of the inner city (Mission, Inglewood, Bridgeland, Kensington, Marda Loop, Bankview) or any of the recently completed projects downtown not included in the 2019 municipal census.

Park Central - 462 units - 2020 completion
One Tower- 390 units - 2020 completion
Cube - 65 units - 2020 completion
The Hat @ East Village - 221 units - 2019-20 completion
The Hat @ 7th Ave - 66 units - 2020 completion
West Village - 512 units - 2021-22 completion (likely)
Curtis Block - 647 units - 2021 completion
Residences on 10th - 900 units - 2021-22 completion
11 & 11th SW - 369 units - 2021 completion
Redstone - 137 units - 2020-21 completion
HomeSpace 5th Ave - 58 units - 2020 completion
Arris East - 190 units - 2021 completion
Barron Building - 103 units - 2021 completion
Telus Sky - 326 units - 2020 completion


That is over 4410 more rental residences downtown in the next 2 years.
That is huge, and all U/C except for Residences. I'm pleasantly surprised how much is in the pipeline given the horror stories some of my Calgary colleagues have been telling me about trying to rent out their condos/houses.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #13758  
Old Posted Jan 26, 2020, 10:52 PM
Jamaican-Phoenix's Avatar
Jamaican-Phoenix Jamaican-Phoenix is offline
R2-D2's army of death
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Downtown Ottawa
Posts: 3,556
Quote:
Originally Posted by TorontoDrew View Post
I'm not getting anything from what you are saying when I look at it. I'm sorry the design has some way of making your eyeballs move away the roof-line which was clearly designed to draw your eyes upwards. You should also do a little research on what the Brutalist movement was all about, You will never find flowing curves in a Brutalist design.
Dude, we're on this forum. Of course I know you don't find flowing lines in brutalism. But those lines on the library proposal are barely flowing. The colour contrast draws my eyes to the middle, the drab, gray, middle.
__________________
Franky: Ajldub, name calling is what they do when good arguments can't be found - don't sink to their level. Claiming the thread is "boring" is also a way to try to discredit a thread that doesn't match their particular bias.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #13759  
Old Posted Jan 27, 2020, 4:20 AM
TorontoDrew's Avatar
TorontoDrew TorontoDrew is online now
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 7,201
"Dude", they are so far from Brutalist. It seems to be only you who is obsessed with hating the limestone part if the design.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #13760  
Old Posted Jan 27, 2020, 1:18 PM
J.OT13's Avatar
J.OT13 J.OT13 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Ottawa
Posts: 10,026
I like the limestone part of the design. Without it, it's just another glass building. Can't say I see any brutalist inspiration. I do see a little bit of the Museum of Civilization in Hull.

Materials and workmanship will be very important on this project. I'm looking forward to seeing the finished result. Generally speaking, Diamond and Schmitt designs are usually well executed.
Reply With Quote
     
     
This discussion thread continues

Use the page links to the lower-right to go to the next page for additional posts
 
 
Reply

Go Back   SkyscraperPage Forum > Regional Sections > Canada
Forum Jump


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 9:58 PM.

     

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.