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Old Posted Jun 10, 2024, 8:37 PM
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It's surprising that there would be enough demand for this in a city with so few really tall buildings and so much available space downtown. I wouldn't expect to see this in a place with so many under-developed downtown lots.
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It's surprising that there would be enough demand for this in a city with so few really tall buildings and so much available space downtown. I wouldn't expect to see this in a place with so many under-developed downtown lots.
Uhh...let's not act like Oklahoma hasn't done tall buildings next to parking lots before...


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If the developers have financing maybe they should hire an architect too? (given it would be the tallest in the usa... it's as dull as dishwater).

Call Calatrava and build the "Spire" here (a lot of the drawings are probably already done and sitting in a drawer somewhere ;-).

Given the tower is phase 2 and they plan to complete the mish-mash of shorter buildings/mega-podiums first... this ought to top out in 2044 or so.

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This is dumb, but also if they actually pull it off they are fucking kings.
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Uhh...let's not act like Oklahoma hasn't done tall buildings next to parking lots before...
I tend to view a normal tall building as being in a different category then a supertall. Especially one that far into supertall height teritory.
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I tend to view a normal tall building as being in a different category then a supertall. Especially one that far into supertall height teritory.
ColDayMan is correct in equating the two as obvious cases where the height isn’t anywhere near justified by land values and land scarcity, leaving only vanity as the explanation.
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It's residential/hotel (Hyatt)... "allegedly".
To me that actually makes it even more implausible, because Oklahoma City has built exactly one residential building in it's central core over four stories in the past fifty-ish years, and it was a twelve story one built just within the past couple years. So to suggest that there is demand for a 300 foot residential tower in downtown OKC, much less a 1,900 foot residential tower, would be a pretty hard sell in my opinion. It's not that I'm rooting against it or anything, I just don't see how this could be justified to any institutions that could provide financing. Now, the developer claims that he has secured financing in full, but has provided zero details about that. And given the fact that he has supposedly had credibility issues in the past, and the fact that neither of his supposed companies even have social media pages, much less fully functioning websites... I don't know... it all just smells highly fishy to me.
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I'd assume crazy-billionaire money, not traditional development sources.

It won't pencil by any normal standard.
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It won't pencil by any normal standard.
This.

There's no universe where this scheme makes any money for people who are interested in making money.
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At this point, this thread should now be moved under "Proposals".
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^ done.

And I merged the thread from city discussions into this one. No need for multiple threads in different places.
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At this point, this thread should now be moved under "Proposals".
It should have always been under proposals
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It should have always been under proposals
It was began in proposals, then moved to visions (presumably because it isn’t going anywhere). But it was open to discussion in either case.
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Does this developer have any credibility to other large scale projects?
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Does this developer have any credibility to other large scale projects?
Supposedly he was involved in some Miami project (World Center?) but I'm not sure how credible the source was. I think it's somewhere in this thread.


Who designed this anyway? The renderings look kinda cheap.
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I don't remotely expect this to be built. Some international rich guy with more homes than they can count will only consider buying here as a US tallest.
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