[Migs]

Originally Posted by Archie Teck

Whoah, backtrack 2 seconds. You were the one who questioned my asertions about economic viability. I brought you 3 very relevant and comparable examples of stadium failures. How about you provide some facts and logic as to how this stadium will avoid the fate of its contemporaries.

Define stadium failures? Is it simply a failure if it doesn't make money or is it a success if it brings civic pride, millions worth of economic activity, history (are you aware of the history that has already taken place at a place like the Skydome?), entertainment, arts, etc. Without this stadium failiure that you mention, where would Toronto be without the Blue Jays, the Argos, the Wrestlemania's, the hundreds of trade shows, the hundreds of concerts, etc etc that have already taken place at this world renowned stadium?

Anything but. They are shrewdly taking advantage of the guillible public and our naive leaders. They will let public money pour into a giant sinkhole to create the traffic that will let their private venture succeed. They will get rich(er) while the public loses out. Now if Bast offers to personally purchase and operate the stadium, that's another thing. But it won't happen because he much smarter than our politicians when it comes to turning a profit.

Whoa whoa whoa, you are the one who implied in a previous post that nobody would want to set up shop beside a facility of this nature, now your saying they want to take advantage of it. Huh??

I already do but it's futile trying to save glasses of fresh water when a rabid group around you is trying to pour truckloads of salt into the lake. The costs and negative impacts of a downtown stadium will kill any chance of something better taking place.

Since you brought it up in a previous post, did the downtown study that was just completed state anything negative about a downtown stadium being built? just curious....

And you still didn't answer the question as to why you're so against building a stadium at this location when there are numerous other spots already within the downtown core that need revitilization. (some of these locations have been vacant for decades yet you are upset about an exciting development in a completely different area)

Conveniently? Few would regard that location as desirable land for residency and the associated uses we speak of.

What better way to revitilize the current location of Taylor Field

Nobody is clamoring to gentrify the streets around Taylor Field, and I highly doubt that would change.

Besides, it's yet another idea that doesn't make any sense.

People that work downtown won't want to walk from Taylor Field to their workplace. It's unrealistic. They'd need to drive or perhaps take transit. But once a person makes the decision to travel to and from work, the vast majority would then select more desirable suburban sites at the outskirts with a lower density of pawn shops.

What the hell are you talking about, its 3 freakin blocks from the current stadium location to the downtown? Do you think people would hop in their cars, drive a few blocks, and then look for parking in areas in the downtown that could use new residential developments much more than the railyards location your whining about. No offence but your not making any sense.....

The Taylor Field site is already fed by large traffic arteries and is flanked by various excellent sports and entertainment facilities.... now doesn't that sound like a site that's just perfect for...... oh I don't know... how about the socalled multi-use complex?

The railyards are fed by large traffic arteries and are flanked by various other services ammenities (like the Casino, stores, hotels, restaurants, bars, etc), perfect for a brand new multiuse complex. Just ask the owner of Bushwakkers and McNally's if he's exciting about this project......