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Old Posted Aug 2, 2016, 3:34 AM
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https://www.capmetro.org/uploadedFil...Web-Report.pdf

The decline in ridership came when they decreased frequency along the drag with their "BRT." Only recently has it gotten back to the levels it was before

Prices were increased 25 cents since 2015.
If you want to go all the way back to 2008 fine, NYC saw the exact same 75 cent increase that we saw. Many agencies have been raising their prices every few years and as I showed many of them are way (relatively speaking) more expensive than our cheap $1.25 per ride yet still outperform us.

22'nd out of 28'th using THE SAME METRICS YOU AGREED WITH.
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If you look at per-passenger-mile, rather than per-passenger, it's equivalent.
your words
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It's not horrible, it's massively successful on any objective measure for a commuter line (as shown by electricron's figures)
Also your words
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So it's not the worse in riders per mile either.
Electricon's words in which you just referenced.
Yup, 22'nd out of 28, pretty damn horrible.
And of course the other systems spent more, they are much, much longer, many with multiple lines. They just happened to put them in the right places, unlike our glorious red line.

And to your gentrification "argument", oops, we are actually ranked 8'th and many cities that have seen more gentrification have seen INCREASES in ridership.
http://grist.org/cities/the-10-u-s-c...g-the-fastest/
http://www.businessinsider.com/map-t...rhoods-2013-11
Didn't even make the list in this one.
http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-pol...ng-turned-rich
or this one
http://atlantablackstar.com/2015/02/...the-fastest/6/
This phenomenon has been happening all over the country for quite some time now.

It is no coincidence that ridership started dropping at the same time they implemented changes to the 1. That is the only argument that one can prove as causal, all the others may have had some impact but messing with our most successful route proved detrimental to the point they still have not recovered.
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