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Old Posted Sep 26, 2007, 4:26 AM
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Blaming Calgary's sprawl on freeways is just ignorant, it is a lifestyle choice that Calgarians made. Living in bigger houses with bigger yards and having 2 of the largest inner city parks in North America dramatically increases the size of the city. Calgary also has very large industrial areas along the eastern edge of the city. Having a freeway in the city makes getting across Calgary much easier. You can take your roads with all of your traffic lights, even if they are timed, you will still end up waiting.

As for BRT lines being better than the LRT, are you kidding me? you still have to deal with traffic and you will still be screwed if there is an accident. Calgary has BRT too, it services the ares of the city that do not yet have the C-train. It's a good system, but it can not compete with the LRT.

Like I said before, sprawl is driven by consumers wanting to buy a house with a good size yard instead of a townhouse or an apartment, and with a high average income, that's a choice that more people here can afford to make.

Talking about Calgary being the only city still building freeways is wrong, you people speak as if we are demolishing neighborhoods and building elevated freeways, when all we are really doing is building more overpasses and increasing traffic flow on existing roads. Deerfoot is our only true freeway, and will stay that way until Glenmore / Sarcee can manage to get rid of all the traffic lights, and move from being a causeway to a freeway. The only thing we are building from scratch (and that is only sections) is the ring road, and you would have to be a complete idiot to tell me that is a bad thing. Anyone who has ever tried to cross through the city on 16th Ave (especially driving an 18 wheeler) knows how frustrating a task that is, the ring road is meant to alleviate that.

Lastly, saying that a freeway causes more pollution is a half truth, true it may increase the distance you travel and thus the amount of gas you burn, but it will greatly reduce the amount of time that you spend in traffic idling (which also burns gas don't you know), and I would say that is better.

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There are different forms of BRT. You're right, you run it as on on-street operation without signal priority, etc. and it's a fraud, buses stuck everywhere. Put it on its own dedicated right of way like Ottawa, that works great. Comparing Calgary's so-called BRT to Ottawa's is night and day.

Nobody said Calgary was the ONLY city building freeway type roads. Last I saw, Crowchild was being expanded and turned into a freeway, minus a couple of traffic signals north of the river. And this road takes traffic right to downtown, what other city is providing enhanced auto access into a downtown. Maybe doesn't matter much based on parking charges.

Calgary's development was heavily influenced by the Dallas/Houston mentality, which is one the reasons it's a bit different from every other city in Canada in terms of sprawl and big roads.
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