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Originally Posted by tackledspoon
The lowrises in Fort Green and downtown Brooklyn are far from nondescript. What pictures were you looking at?
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This one:
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Originally Posted by tackledspoon
In addition to their beauty, they're functional and (obviously) in scale with the neighborhood.
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Some of them might be beautiful but they are very common not only in Brooklyn but if you'd bother to look at other cities, they are common there too. In other words, there's nothing special about them.
This new tower will function just like the lowrises that you love: residents in the apartments above, retail on the groundfloor. Not only will it function much the same way, but it will do it much more efficiently.
In case, you're not aware, the amount of developable land in Brooklyn is finite. If you don't build up, the land will become so expensive and the available housing stock so exclusive that the very people you hate to see live in this tower, will be the only people that can afford to live in Brooklyn.
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This tower, by contrast, is totally out of scale with and disrupts the fabric of the neighborhood.
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The Eiffel tower is out of scale with the rest of Paris but try to imagine Paris without it. And don't bring that "oh but this ain't no Eiffel tower" BS because you're talking about the scale and disruption nonsense and the Eiffel is guilty of both of those.
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Originally Posted by tackledspoon
The residents it's likely to draw in are not going to participate in the neighborhood, nor is the building's design conducive to such activity.
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I'm sure the two story piece of junk with a graffiti filled blank wall on Ashland that was here before was a better contributor to the neighborhood.
There will be a few hundred people living there, and who knows some might even be people from the area right now. How do you know they are not going to shop and spend time in the neighborhood?
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Originally Posted by tackledspoon
The ready availability of most necessities within the building (gym, ground-floor retail etc...) encourages residents to leave the building only to go to work, presumably in Manhattan. Hell, the sheer height of the building is a wonderful symbol for the type of alienation that it's going to breed.
Having a massive hardon for anything tall, regardless of whether the development is sensible is just as bad as embracing nimbyism and sprawl.
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Only in your head is it not sensible. Brooklyn has no choice but to build up. It has nothing to do with Manhattan.
If there was no Manhattan, Brooklyn would be its own city and it would have tall towers anyway.
People like you are the very people that have kept Brooklyn back instead of allowing it to grow and prosper and come into its own. Classic irrational NIMBYism.